Why Do Fights Need To Be Marinated

[Tony Trick-Pony]

You won't believe some fans even encourage it.
As if they'll get some percentage of the profit "when it becomes big."
It's like giving the fighters excuse not to fight.
Most of them never happened.

So true. A lot of times nowadays, I'm more disappointed in the fans than any other part of the sport.

[Real King Kong]

well in a business sense..that is why they are making money and you are spending money

I'm not particularly concerned about them making money...i mean i don't want fighters to be broke or anything, but whether they make 1 mil or 10 mil per fight is none of my concern. Personally, I'd spend more money on good fights that are at the right time...not "marinated" fights that are past their best before dates. I understand it from their perspective tho...unfortunately it's the promoters who end up benefitting the most. Fighters who want to face everyone and prove they are the absolute best are a dying breed.

[stiff_back]

In Canelo's case it was about banking as much money as possible before taking a risk against GGG

[Eff Pandas]

Its to maximize profit. The problem is often I question promoters sense on when they have maximized an event too much vs too little time trying to maximize a fight & thus they are likely costing future money by making a guy famous/more famous sooner or seen as a guy taking on more legit dudes thus being worth following.

The biggest problem all promoters have is few guys are seen as worth following they fight such a low level of who cares opposition too much. Guys like Joshua + Canelo can fight virtually anyone now & have cats follow them from fight to fight, but most cats don't have enough of a Q rating to warrant them fighting lesser guys fight to fight so often thus you can't maximize THAT much cuz no one gives much of a f#ck about them yet & they never will til they actually get that win that mfers are trying to maximize too late for THAT many mfers to follow them.

[rickJen]

That's the mind-boggling part. Fans encouraging tuneups as if they're part of the team. It's comical.

So true. A lot of times nowadays, I'm more disappointed in the fans than any other part of the sport.

I'll never understood the reasoning behind it.
Promoters have their reasons valid or not, but man, fans preferring not to see it now because it's bigger later is beyond comical.
They might as well postpone many fights because they're bigger later. Kills me.

[Scipio2009]

They say it's to build momentum and to generate interest, but interest in boxing back in the day was a fighter's previous perfomances, not how good a fight is likely to be in the year 2090.

I call BS on it and ask you to look at the UFC where the best fight the best in a matter of months, not years....if it had been years before Cormier/Jones or Conor/Aldo I guarantee you the UFC wouldn't be as big as it is today and people would soon lose interest.

Boxing is the worst when it comes to match ups, bar none. You don't see games "marinating" in BB, Soccer, NBA, Football....and it's killing the sport. What's the justification for it in boxing? Also, there's no middle ground or logical pattern for fights in boxing. It's either Loma fighting a veteran like Salido or established names doing the dance for years like I expect Wilder and AJ to do. And we're so grateful Canelo vs GGG finally happened, and Canelo fans are like, "See...you said it wouldn't happen" yeah like ***ing years ago.

UFC is a **** example because very few of their fights are even the blockbuster attractions that draw even most MMA fans, nevermind reaching at the crossover fan. Very few of the fights, with the way that the UFC has run things, even actually matter because the general fan has no idea who the fighters are and only tune in for the UFC name, which they do know.

Beyond that, all of the sports that you've mentioned all have their own form of "marination"; baseball, basketball, and football all draw far more interest for their playoff series' than they do for the regular season, and soccer only generally spikes as the season is ending (EPL, for example, when a few teams are jockeying for the Championship and a handful of clubs are trying to stave off relegation).

Boxing, especially at the PPV level is largely about giving the buying public a reason to care about each/either guy, and giving the buying public to care about the fight, and you do that with fights and time.

[Scipio2009]

Well, UFC 216 it was two champions fighting against top contenders defending their belt and on 4th Nov....UFC 217 sees two other champions defending their belts against the top contenders. I've never seen a UFC champion or top contender fight someone who isn't ranked in the top ten. Ever, unless they're both not contenders and it's on Fight Night. So, in the space of like 25 days they have 4 championship fights. We're lucky to get a proper competitive honest not-sure-who'll-win championship fight once a year, let alone 4. See the poster just above you (Harvey Keitel) for why promoters are allowed to get away with this - they'll pay regardless.

Also, Hearn said recently the Brook- Khan fight is still huge...and if it ever does happen you know Khan fans will make threads titled, "To those who said Khan was ducking...what do you have to say now?" forgetting it took forever and they're both past their best. I'll even contend Golovkin was past his best when he fought Jacobs.

But what were the title fights? I'm a casual MMA fan at this point, and the only reason I knew that Kevin Lee was fighting was because he kept popping up on the Mayweather videos as being in camp for a big fight, and I heard Chael Sonnen over some audio talking about how Lee dissed the heck out of Ferguson during the promo.

I literally have no idea what any of the fights are on UFC 217, nevermind any Fight Nights that may happen around the time.

Conor-Diaz 3 is the next big fight, and the build to that had already been bubbling.

You have to have the fights mean something.

Note: did see an interview with Michael Bisping on The Breakfast Club (where he came off as a pretty cool guy), so that did jog my memory for Bisping-GSP coming soon. Still, that's it

[Combat Talk Radio]

I call BS on it and ask you to look at the UFC where the best fight the best in a matter of months, not years

Meanwhile, the paydays doe

[Reloaded]

Yes as far as the business model goes, although they can over do things to the point of ducking but in general the public would have the top prospects fight as soon as possible effectively eliminating one from the big picture, no fighter or promoter will sacrifice themselves or their fighter unless they think its ready to make that move, money wise and career wise.

Its a business at the end of the day and that's just how it works.

[NC Uppercut]

They say it's to build momentum and to generate interest, but interest in boxing back in the day was a fighter's previous perfomances, not how good a fight is likely to be in the year 2090.

I call BS on it and ask you to look at the UFC where the best fight the best in a matter of months, not years....if it had been years before Cormier/Jones or Conor/Aldo I guarantee you the UFC wouldn't be as big as it is today and people would soon lose interest.

Boxing is the worst when it comes to match ups, bar none. You don't see games "marinating" in BB, Soccer, NBA, Football....and it's killing the sport. What's the justification for it in boxing? Also, there's no middle ground or logical pattern for fights in boxing. It's either Loma fighting a veteran like Salido or established names doing the dance for years like I expect Wilder and AJ to do. And we're so grateful Canelo vs GGG finally happened, and Canelo fans are like, "See...you said it wouldn't happen" yeah like ***ing years ago.

Marinate == drive the true boxing fans effin nuts!