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  • iamboxing
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    Why Do Fights Need To Be Marinated

    They say it's to build momentum and to generate interest, but interest in boxing back in the day was a fighter's previous perfomances, not how good a fight is likely to be in the year 2090.

    I call BS on it and ask you to look at the UFC where the best fight the best in a matter of months, not years....if it had been years before Cormier/Jones or Conor/Aldo I guarantee you the UFC wouldn't be as big as it is today and people would soon lose interest.

    Boxing is the worst when it comes to match ups, bar none. You don't see games "marinating" in BB, Soccer, NBA, Football....and it's killing the sport. What's the justification for it in boxing? Also, there's no middle ground or logical pattern for fights in boxing. It's either Loma fighting a veteran like Salido or established names doing the dance for years like I expect Wilder and AJ to do. And we're so grateful Canelo vs GGG finally happened, and Canelo fans are like, "See...you said it wouldn't happen" yeah like ***ing years ago.
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    I feel the same. the reason it's done is so promoters can drum up interest and make more money...but **** them, I wanna see the fights at the best time for the actual fight...not the best time to make the most money. promoters refusing to work with eachother or trying to get the upper hand plays a big part too.

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    • TOBYLEE1
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      It builds anticipation. The more they say that fight won't get done the more the fans pay to see it.

      Can't compare boxing to other sports because they only get paid when they fight. They don't have contracts or get paid while out with an injury. They have to maximize on the big fights.

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      • ussy
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        It's a bs excuse the promoters and fighters use to milk the fans. The UfC has gone abit like boxing since Connor started running the show.

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          You won't believe some fans even encourage it.
          As if they'll get some percentage of the profit "when it becomes big."
          It's like giving the fighters excuse not to fight.
          Most of them never happened.
          Last edited by rickJen; 10-11-2017, 05:08 PM.

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          • iamboxing
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            #6
            Originally posted by ussy
            It's a bs excuse the promoters and fighters use to milk the fans. The UfC has gone abit like boxing since Connor started running the show.
            Well, UFC 216 it was two champions fighting against top contenders defending their belt and on 4th Nov....UFC 217 sees two other champions defending their belts against the top contenders. I've never seen a UFC champion or top contender fight someone who isn't ranked in the top ten. Ever, unless they're both not contenders and it's on Fight Night. So, in the space of like 25 days they have 4 championship fights. We're lucky to get a proper competitive honest not-sure-who'll-win championship fight once a year, let alone 4. See the poster just above you (Harvey Keitel) for why promoters are allowed to get away with this - they'll pay regardless.

            Also, Hearn said recently the Brook- Khan fight is still huge...and if it ever does happen you know Khan fans will make threads titled, "To those who said Khan was ducking...what do you have to say now?" forgetting it took forever and they're both past their best. I'll even contend Golovkin was past his best when he fought Jacobs.

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            • iamboxing
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              #7
              Originally posted by genrick
              You won't believe some fans even encourage it.
              As if they'll get some percentage of the profit "when it becomes big."
              It's like giving the fighters excuse not to fight.
              Most of them never happened.
              Exaaaaactly

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                Originally posted by genrick
                You won't believe some fans even encourage it.
                As if they'll get some percentage of the profit "when it becomes big."
                It's like giving the fighters excuse not to fight.
                Most of them never happened.
                That's the mind-boggling part. Fans encouraging tuneups as if they're part of the team. It's comical.

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                • Larry the boss
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by considerthis
                  I feel the same. the reason it's done is so promoters can drum up interest and make more money...but **** them, I wanna see the fights at the best time for the actual fight...not the best time to make the most money. promoters refusing to work with eachother or trying to get the upper hand plays a big part too.
                  well in a business sense..that is why they are making money and you are spending money

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                  • Tony Trick-Pony
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                    Originally posted by iamboxing
                    They say it's to build momentum and to generate interest, but interest in boxing back in the day was a fighter's previous perfomances, not how good a fight is likely to be in the year 2090.

                    I call BS on it and ask you to look at the UFC where the best fight the best in a matter of months, not years....if it had been years before Cormier/Jones or Conor/Aldo I guarantee you the UFC wouldn't be as big as it is today and people would soon lose interest.

                    Boxing is the worst when it comes to match ups, bar none. You don't see games "marinating" in BB, Soccer, NBA, Football....and it's killing the sport. What's the justification for it in boxing? Also, there's no middle ground or logical pattern for fights in boxing. It's either Loma fighting a veteran like Salido or established names doing the dance for years like I expect Wilder and AJ to do. And we're so grateful Canelo vs GGG finally happened, and Canelo fans are like, "See...you said it wouldn't happen" yeah like ***ing years ago.
                    There is no point as far as being good for the fans. It's a way for promoters to wiggle out of hard fights for their top dogs.

                    As you say, the fighters' previous performances spell a potentially good fight, but we know how that goes. It's fairly hit or miss in most instances. However, pitting the best against the best at least gives you one man on top and less confusion and this is the worst sport about confusion with 300 champions per division and 1000 divisions.

                    Good post.

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