Who has the better legacy? Joe Calzaghe or Andre Ward?

[john l]

where is your proof??? your words arent proof sorry to say. you do realize simply saying something doesnt make it true right? you are saying things that are blatantly wrong over and over. i am posting things disproving you and you are ignoring it. he didnt have the chance to fight bute when he turned down the fight? do i have to get those links out for you? i thought it was common knowledge but i have to treat you like you were just born i suppose. i apologize for assuming you knew a little.

Dude look it up I'm done trying to teach your dumb dence azz. Done got it. not gonna respond to your fantasyland POSTINGS ANYMORE

[daggum]

Dude look it up I'm done trying to teach your dumb dence azz. Done got it. not gonna respond to your fantasyland POSTINGS ANYMORE

look what up??? shouldnt you be telling yourself that? you aren't posting any facts because you know you are wrong. all you have is your opinion but you cant really have an opinion on factually based things like bute being #1. he simply was. im sorry you dont like it. im a hater because i know facts?

i already posted quotes of ward when he turned down the rematch. he pretended he called the shots when froch sells 80k tickets and he sells 8k.

I'm not willing to come to Nottingham, I don't think I should have to"

'If this fight does happen, Froch is not dictating anything. He must have fell and bumped his head.'

what kidn of sh-it is that? he refuses to fight in nottingham? why????? he just didn't want the fight. what else am i looking up? remember when you said ward beat the top 3 guys then i posted that bute was #1??? you see how you can't just talk out of your azz when people have facts against you? you will look ******. unfortunately you are the one that is living in fantasy land because you are such a fanboy. you see any criticism as hate and just pretend its not real. so pathetic. you love ward i get it but the facts dont change based on how much you love ward and think hes so amazing.

[john l]

look what up??? shouldnt you be telling yourself that? you aren't posting any facts because you know you are wrong. all you have is your opinion but you cant really have an opinion on factually based things like bute being #1. he simply was. im sorry you dont like it. im a hater because i know facts?

i already posted quotes of ward when he turned down the rematch. he pretended he called the shots when froch sells 80k tickets and he sells 8k.

I'm not willing to come to Nottingham, I don't think I should have to"

'If this fight does happen, Froch is not dictating anything. He must have fell and bumped his head.'

what kidn of sh-it is that? he refuses to fight in nottingham? why????? he just didn't want the fight. what else am i looking up? remember when you said ward beat the top 3 guys then i posted that bute was #1??? you see how you can't just talk out of your azz when people have facts against you? you will look ******. unfortunately you are the one that is living in fantasy land because you are such a fanboy. you see any criticism as hate and just pretend its not real. so pathetic. you love ward i get it but the facts dont change based on how much you love ward and think hes so amazing.

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[daggum]

ok "john" you claimed ward never ducked down bute. how do you explain this?

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...ely-time-being

"So I don't have to go to Lucian Bute right now," Ward said. "We're going to sit back and I'm going to rest and we'll see what's next. I'm open for a Mikkel Kessler clash. I would love to get that rematch."

I think I earned the right to pick the right fight for the right price."

I'm just gonna be frank with you: He has to beat somebody, an A-level guy, to get a shot"

ok so then you read that and you can poke holes in it all night. he wanted a kessler rematch instead of bute??? wtf is that? he earned the right to pick the right fight aka i'm going to cherry pick who i want when i want. he has to beat someone to get a shot...hmm ok cept he then went on to try and fight dmitri sartison. who did dmitri sartison fight to earn his shot? caught in a contradiction. aka thats bad!!!! aka hes lyign!!! aka hes ducking!!! you get how to form an argument now? you cant just say WARD NEVER DUCKED!!! thats your argument and its not based on anything but your own fanboy love. im not a fanboy. i owned you.

[daggum]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz not even reading your long fiction books

lol this is when you know you got owned. resorting to the not reading! because you know you dont want to read the truth. stay fantasy!!! you tell me to look something up. i do and then you ignore it haha you got owned. go to bed. then go to school. you have a lot to learn.

[john l]

lol this is when you know you got owned. resorting to the not reading! because you know you dont want to read the truth. stay fantasy!!!

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzdude I am not reading them so stop I layed it all out for you you can not see though the hate.so stop wastin your time.

[daggum]

remember when ward said this?

I'm just gonna be frank with you: He has to beat somebody, an A-level guy, to get a shot"

and then fast foward to....


https://www.badlefthook.com/2013/8/1...sartison-fight

Andre Ward and Dimitri Sartison were ready to go for September 28, with Ward defending his super middleweight crown against a former paper titlist and current fringe contender, with contracts ready to be signed. HBO, however, decided to pass on the fight, which means with no outlet, there's no fight.



you see this is how you do an argument. you dont just say things with no evidence like you like to do. saying bute has to beat someone in order to get a fight with him then showing how he tried to fight unknown sartison. he was lying. he was ducking. he did not want to fight bute. thats called evidence. where is yours???

[daggum]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzdude I am not reading them so stop I layed it all out for you you can not see though the hate.so stop wastin your time.

what did you lay out??? you got layed out!

[john l]

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[daggum]

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its probably better to just go away when you get owned so hard and have no comeback at all. come back tomorrow to spout more nonsense about how amazing ward is.