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  • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
    So tooli, how did he answer the rule that you can't have an IV in a home visit without a TUE in advance, it's prohibited at ALL TIMES, it's the perfect rule for this situation, fluid had his IV at home, it was for REHYDRAION as ellerbie said in the video, a paramedic cannot authorise the infusion, I posted the rule a couple of pages back, but all that your alter ego posted was that an IV CAN be given to combat dehydration, yes it can if the dehydration is severe, if the dehydration is impairing your health, you fail to realise that fluid saw the doctor 2 hours before this was administered, nothing was wrong with him, there is a reasonable legal alternative, drink water, if he was that poor health wise to require an IV then why wasn't the NSAC contacted immediately, why was the fight allowed to happen if he was in such poor health, but hey, nuffy thinks a rule that says you CAN get a tue to combat dehydration means this situation, you need to meet the same criteria for a retro tue as you do for a tue, he didn't meet the criteria
    Stop ****ing crying.

    1. I already told you that a “home visit” is most likely not the same as a paramedic being summoned to wherever you are, including your home.

    2. I already showed you that because he is not an international or national athlete, by the rules, HE IS ALLOWED TO APPLY TO USADA FOR A RETRO TUE! It says it right in the code!!!

    Give the **** up. It’s over.

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    • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
      Again, your a liar, I put forward facts and you put forward trash but still see yourself as answering the questions, have you ever admitted your wrong, no, so what would possibly make you think that would be any different, you'd be but, but, but, this rule doesn't mean that, but they can, you really should go back and read over some of your posts, they're horrific nuffy, but knock yourself out, write to wada
      No. I’ve never been wrong here.

      But you have. OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

      1. You said he is an international athlete.

      2. You said the contract omits WADA Code.

      3. You said it has to take place in a hospital.

      4. You’ve misquoted people because you don’t know what quotation marks are.

      5. You said WADA called what USADA did illegal.

      6. You said you dilute a urine sample by making it more concentrated.

      And a whole bunch of more dumb shlt you’ve said here. Give the **** up. Or write to WADA. Kool and I will help.

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      • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
        Stop ****ing crying.

        1. I already told you that a “home visit” is most likely not the same as a paramedic being summoned to wherever you are, including your home.

        2. I already showed you that because he is not an international or national athlete, by the rules, HE IS ALLOWED TO APPLY TO USADA FOR A RETRO TUE! It says it right in the code!!!

        Give the **** up. It’s over.
        MOST LIKELY, your as dumb as dog****, imagine getting up in court and saying, most likely they didn't mean that, even though it is written there in plain English, MOST LIKELY, you should have been a comedian because everyone is laughing at you nuffy

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        • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
          What the hell are you even talking about? No one is arguing that the paramedic filled out the TUE application.

          Go away. It’s over.
          Where has a doctor been mentioned, only a dco and a paramedic, neither can authorize an infusion

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          • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
            MOST LIKELY, your as dumb as dog****, imagine getting up in court and saying, most likely they didn't mean that, even though it is written there in plain English, MOST LIKELY, you should have been a comedian because everyone is laughing at you nuffy
            I'm not willing to say for sure because there is nothing but implicit agreement from USADA and WADA that it doesn't mean that.


            The point is, you idiot, it doesn't matter whether it means that or not because THE WADA CODE SAYS THAT HE IS ALLOWED TO APPLY FOR A RETROACTIVE TUE.

            Or did you not read that part????

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            • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
              Where has a doctor been mentioned, only a dco and a paramedic, neither can authorize an infusion
              Go find in the WADA Code where it mentions Paramedic. How about in the ISTUE.


              Let's put this shlt to rest right here, dumbass. If an athlete was in an emergency situation and was at home, according to your dumb ass, that means that the athlete would NOT be able to have a paramedic come to their home with an IV. Right? Right?

              Now how the **** do you apply ahead of time for an IV infusion that you don't know you need until the time that you need it. If the athlete is at home and needs it immediately, tell me what should he do?

              Beware, because when you answer, "he should be rushed to a hospital," then you'll have to explain why he would need to apply for a TUE if he is rushed to the hospital, yet WADA ALREADY STATED THAT A RETROACTIVE TUE CAN BE APPLIED FOR IN THE CASE OF AN IV TO TREAT DEHYDRATION. AND THEY DAMN SURE DON'T MEAN IN THE HOSPITAL YOU IDIOT.

              You dumb ass. Eat a dlck.


              [img]https://media.*****.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/*****.gif[/img]

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              • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                Where has a doctor been mentioned, only a dco and a paramedic, neither can authorize an infusion
                Does this help you out, dumbass. Look at the ****ing application:



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                • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                  So tooli, how did he answer the rule that you can't have an IV in a home visit without a TUE in advance, it's prohibited at ALL TIMES, it's the perfect rule for this situation, fluid had his IV at home, it was for REHYDRAION as ellerbie said in the video, a paramedic cannot authorise the infusion, I posted the rule a couple of pages back, but all that your alter ego posted was that an IV CAN be given to combat dehydration, yes it can if the dehydration is severe, if the dehydration is impairing your health, you fail to realise that fluid saw the doctor 2 hours before this was administered, nothing was wrong with him, there is a reasonable legal alternative, drink water, if he was that poor health wise to require an IV then why wasn't the NSAC contacted immediately, why was the fight allowed to happen if he was in such poor health, but hey, nuffy thinks a rule that says you CAN get a tue to combat dehydration means this situation, you need to meet the same criteria for a retro tue as you do for a tue, he didn't meet the criteria
                  As usual, your answer is bullshyt.

                  This has been explained to you over and over again.

                  You don't need a TUE prior; retroactive TUEs can be granted to emergency situations.

                  Doesn't matter where those emergencies occur.

                  This is from a post I did almost 800 post ago.

                  There have been many more after by myself, Travestyny, and others all explaining the same thing...and your mentally challenged arse still can't seem to grasp the concept.

                  Read this, idiot.

                  From WADA

                  9. WHAT IS A RETROACTIVE TUE?

                  There are situations for which TUEs may be granted retroactively. The evaluation process is identical to the standard TUE application procedure i.e. the TUEC evaluates the application and issues its decision. The ISTUE stipulates which situations may result in the granting of a retroactive TUE, as follows:

                  Emergency treatment or treatment of an acute medical condition was necessary*; or

                  Due to other exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time or opportunity for the athlete to submit, or the TUEC to consider, an application for the TUE prior to Sample collection; or

                  Applicable rules required the athlete or permitted the athlete to apply for a retroactive TUE. This is applicable to Persons who are not International-Level or National-Level athletes (Code Article 4.4.5) and (where the relevant NADO so chooses) to National-Level Athletes in sports specified by the relevant NADO (ISTUE Article 5.1 Comment); or
                  [Comment: Such athletes are strongly advised to have a medical file prepared and ready to demonstrate their satisfaction of the TUE conditions set out in ISTUE Article 4.1, should an application for a retroactive TUE be necessary following Sample collection.]

                  It is agreed, by WADA and by the ADO to whom the application for a retroactive TUE is or would be made, that fairness requires the grant of a retroactive TUE.

                  *A medical emergency or acute medical situation occurs when the athlete's medical condition justifies immediate Administration of a Prohibited Substance or Method and failure to treat immediately could significantly put the athlete’s health at risk. It is always preferable to address a TUE application prospectively rather than retrospectively. ADOs granting TUEs should have internal procedures to expedite the evaluation and granting of TUE for emergency situations, whenever possible, and without putting the athlete’s health at risk.


                  https://www.wada-ama.org/en/question...n-tue#item-734

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                  • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                    Go find in the WADA Code where it mentions Paramedic. How about in the ISTUE.


                    Let's put this shlt to rest right here, dumbass. If an athlete was in an emergency situation and was at home, according to your dumb ass, that means that the athlete would NOT be able to have a paramedic come to their home with an IV. Right? Right?

                    Now how the **** do you apply ahead of time for an IV infusion that you don't know you need until the time that you need it. If the athlete is at home and needs it immediately, tell me what should he do?

                    Beware, because when you answer, "he should be rushed to a hospital," then you'll have to explain why he would need to apply for a TUE if he is rushed to the hospital, yet WADA ALREADY STATED THAT A RETROACTIVE TUE CAN BE APPLIED FOR IN THE CASE OF AN IV TO TREAT DEHYDRATION. AND THEY DAMN SURE DON'T MEAN IN THE HOSPITAL YOU IDIOT.

                    You dumb ass. Eat a dlck.


                    [img]https://media.*****.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/*****.gif[/img]
                    If an athlete was at home and a paramedic came to his house because of an emergency, yes he could give an IV, bet the athlete would apply for an emergency the, how dumb are you, all fluid had to do was go to hospital but he decided to have his IV in his loungeroom which doesn't meet criteria for a tue, it's simple really, like your brain, SIMPLE

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                    • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                      If an athlete was at home and a paramedic came to his house because of an emergency, yes he could give an IV, bet the athlete would apply for an emergency the, how dumb are you, all fluid had to do was go to hospital but he decided to have his IV in his loungeroom which doesn't meet criteria for a tue, it's simple really, like your brain, SIMPLE
                      ******, stop calling anyone dumb when the WADA Code says it doesn't have to be an emergency. Can you ****ing read? What does it say in the WADA Code.

                      Do you see EMERGENCY, OR?


                      Do you?


                      4.3 An Athlete may only be granted retroactive approval for his/her The****utic Use of a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method (i.e., a retroactive TUE) if:

                      a. Emergency treatment or treatment of an acute medical condition was necessary; or

                      c. The applicable rules required the athlete (see comment to article 5.1) or permitted the athlete (see code article 4.4.5) to apply for a retroactive tue; or
                      Code Article 4.4.5

                      if an anti-doping organization chooses to collect a sample from a person who is not an international- level or national-level athlete, and that person is using a prohibited substance or prohibited method for the****utic reasons, the anti-doping organization may permit him or her to apply for a retroactive tue.
                      I specifically see it say PROHIBITED METHOD under retroactive TUE and in the Code for retroactive TUE. You see that???

                      Now shut the **** up already. It's over.


                      BY THE RULES, HE WAS ALLOWED TO APPLY FOR A RETROACTIVE TUE. IT DID NOT HAVE TO BE IN ADVANCE. IT SAYS IT PLAINLY HERE. CASE CLOSED.
                      Last edited by travestyny; 11-09-2017, 10:09 PM.

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