Here's Where All The Floyd Cheat Theories Fail

[djtmal]

Says a jealous hater with 0 life.

Says the dude who probably sits up day and night, squatting for me to say something.

[djtmal]

Instead of chiming in with nothing, why not join the discussion and explain? Unless that is, you have no comeback for the OP. I think in reality, you have no reply for the thread starter, and that seems to make you mad.

why would i waste my time, none of yous can really prove jack...

[maracho]

Cong**** on not answering anything I asked in that post.

Try again.

Tell me how the methods cyclist used could be adapted to boxing.

See, your argument seems to be that the cheaters are ahead of the testers so therefore we should assume Floyd was cheating.

I asked you how.

Microdosing won't work for a boxer out of camp (not being tested) because the effects wear off too fast.

Microdosing won't work in camp because boxers have no prior notice of when they have to do blood or urine and would never know when they could do so without being tested immediately (or while the PED was still in their system).

The one thing of merit about your post is that you are correct about them still having the samples- and that those samples could be retested anytime with newer and better methods.

Knowing this, why would a fighter who is worried about his legacy in the sport risk tarnishing it by cheating and having evidence of it sitting there ad infinitum?

I am guessing that just like every other poster who has tried, you will have no real answer for this.

But, thanks for playing...

A huge portion of AfroAmerican hall of fame boxers over the last few generations have been caught but their legacies remain intact.

Just because he hasnt been fully caught doesn't mean he's innocent. I say If you cheat on your spouse(s) and/or concubines, youll cheat in the ring. Do I think Pacquiao cheated too yes he probably did


Take it from the Ped pros

“USADA’s boxing testing program is propaganda; that’s all,” ..It has one set of rules for some fighters and a different set of rules for others."says Victor Conte.

The day before his fight against Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather took two intravenous infusions totaling 750 milliliters. The bags contained mixtures of saline and vitamins, but their contents are irrelevant: any IVs over 50 mL are strictly banned. The Nevada State Athletic Commission, which sanctioned the fight, did not learn of the IV until three weeks after the fight—by which time Mayweather had already sought and received an exemption from his favored drug-testing agency.
It’s bizarre,” Don Catlin says with regard to the retroactive the****utic use exemption that USADA granted to Mayweather. .. USADA has yet to explain to my satisfaction why Mayweather needed an IV infusion. There might be a valid explanation, but I don’t know what it is.”

"I don’t get it,” Conte says. “There are strict criteria for the granting of a TUE. You don’t hand them out like Halloween candy. And this sort of IV use is clearly against the rules."

Mayweather’s testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the April 3, 2013, sample was 0.80. His testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the Aug. 18, 2011, sample was 0.69. “That’s a warning flag,” says Don Catlin who founded the UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory in 1982 and is one of the founders of modern drug testing in sports. Other experts say the same "But an abnormally low T-E ratio is a red flag" says Conte

Now that he is a promoter, we have been seeing his fighters get away with lots of stuff too

[koolkc107]

Nope.

I will not go over this again.

This thread is almost 400 posts and all of what you just posted has been presented and soundly refuted several times.

BTW, I did not and will not watch the video.

Victo Conte is not a reliable source since he is agenda driven.

And it begins with Gabriel Montoya, a man with a proven record of publishing false information about Mayweather, also with an agenda.

Do you have anything new to offer?

A huge portion of AfroAmerican hall of fame boxers have been caught but their legacies remain intact.

Just because he hasnt been fully caught doesn't mean he's innocent. I say If you cheat on your spouse(s) and/or concubines, youll cheat in the ring


Take it from the Ped pros

“USADA’s boxing testing program is propaganda; that’s all,” ..It has one set of rules for some fighters and a different set of rules for others."says Victor Conte.

The day before his fight against Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather took two intravenous infusions totaling 750 milliliters. The bags contained mixtures of saline and vitamins, but their contents are irrelevant: any IVs over 50 mL are strictly banned. The Nevada State Athletic Commission, which sanctioned the fight, did not learn of the IV until three weeks after the fight—by which time Mayweather had already sought and received an exemption from his favored drug-testing agency.
It’s bizarre,” Don Catlin says with regard to the retroactive the****utic use exemption that USADA granted to Mayweather. .. USADA has yet to explain to my satisfaction why Mayweather needed an IV infusion. There might be a valid explanation, but I don’t know what it is.”

"I don’t get it,” Conte says. “There are strict criteria for the granting of a TUE. You don’t hand them out like Halloween candy. And this sort of IV use is clearly against the rules."

Mayweather’s testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the April 3, 2013, sample was 0.80. His testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the Aug. 18, 2011, sample was 0.69. “That’s a warning flag,” says Don Catlin who founded the UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory in 1982 and is one of the founders of modern drug testing in sports. Other experts say the same "But an abnormally low T-E ratio is a red flag" says Conte

Now that he is a promoter, we have been seeing his fighters get away with lots of stuff too

[travestyny]

No embarrassment for me, you have no answers to these questions, even the fed that bought down lance can see a huge issue

Really, he also said------------- I do know that the facts surrounding Mayweather’s May 1 IV have not been fully explored. And I have a problem with the concept of a doping control officer going to Mayweather’s home, and Mayweather telling the DCO that he’ll provide a full urine sample AFTER he takes an IV infusion of 25.361 ounces of fluid.

Dude, just stop it. Your second quote is from Thomas Hauser, not "the fed that brought down Lance." This is like the third straight time you've embarrassed yourself. It's over.

[Shape up]

Dude, just stop it. Your second quote is from Thomas Hauser, not "the fed that brought down Lance." This is like the third straight time you've embarrassed yourself. It's over.

No, that was the fed-----------------------------------------------Let’s say, hypothetically, that a hematocrit blood test would show that the percentage of red blood cells to an athlete’s total whole blood volume is 55%. If the athlete adds 750 milliliters (25.361 ounces) of saline solution and vitamins via IV, it won’t diminished the number of red blood cells in that athlete. His red blood cells will still be at an elevated level. But the percentage of red blood cells to that athlete’s total whole blood volume will drop to 47% because he will be increasing his total whole blood volume.

That’s an example of what is meant by “diluting and masking” through the use of an intravenous infusion.

floyd mayweather v manny pacquiao

I don’t know whether or not Floyd Mayweather used prohibited performance enhancing drugs.

To repeat: I don’t know whether or not Floyd Mayweather used prohibited performance enhancing drugs.

I do know that the facts surrounding Mayweather’s May 1 IV have not been fully explored. And I have a problem with the concept of a doping control officer going to Mayweather’s home, and Mayweather telling the DCO that he’ll provide a full urine sample AFTER he takes an IV infusion of 25.361 ounces of fluid.
---------------------------------------------------------------------it's funny how you make up **** when you have no answers, just like tooli, oh but it won't work for a boxer, he thinks boxers and cyclists are different species

[travestyny]

Get ready for yet another schooling, son!!!

Let's get the easy shlt out of the way first.

No, that was the fed-----------------------------------------------

No, fool. Are you ******? That is not a quote from Jeff Novitzky. It is a quote from THOMAS HAUSER! You are too ****** to see where quotation marks begin and end. How can you be this dumb? Honestly, I don't believe you can be this ******. You have to be perpetually high to get this shlt wrong.

Let’s say, hypothetically, that a hematocrit blood test would show that the percentage of red blood cells to an athlete’s total whole blood volume is 55%. If the athlete adds 750 milliliters (25.361 ounces) of saline solution and vitamins via IV, it won’t diminished the number of red blood cells in that athlete. His red blood cells will still be at an elevated level. But the percentage of red blood cells to that athlete’s total whole blood volume will drop to 47% because he will be increasing his total whole blood volume.

That’s an example of what is meant by “diluting and masking” through the use of an intravenous infusion.

WRONG! THOMAS HAUSER HAS NO IDEA WHAT THE **** HE IS TALKING ABOUT!!!


He's so ****ing ****** that he thinks there is a 1:1 ratio of saline solution amount to the amount of blood volume added to a person's body. Jesus Christ, you are both idiots. Thomas Hauser, is that you????

Look here, you idiot. Let me explain this to you.

What Hauser is saying is this:

A person has about 5 liters of blood in their body. This can be verified.

Scientists estimate the volume of blood in a human body to be approximately 7 percent of body weight. An average adult body with a weight of 150 to 180 pounds will contain approximately 4.7 to 5.5 liters (1.2 to 1.5 gallons) of blood.

https://wonderopolis.org/wonder/how-much-blood-is-in-your-body

Got that? Ok. so 5 liters, or 5000ml. Now. He's saying that we should start at a red blood cell count of 55%. That would mean that the red blood cell count is 2750, right?

2750/5000 = 55% hematocrit

Got that? Ok.

Now he says that you add 750ml of normal saline, and that reduces your RBC count to 47%.

2750 RBC / 5750 Blood = 47% hematocrit (actually .478, which can be rounded up to 48%). THIS IS ****ING WRONG!!!


In actuality, 750ml of normal saline doesn't increase your blood volume by 750ml, you idiot. 1000 ml of normal saline increases your blood volume by about 25%, that would be 250ml!

Response to 1L of Normal Saline

The intravascular compartment volume increases by 250ml or so – from 5000ml to 5250ml.

http://www.derangedphysiology.com/main/core-topics-intensive-care/manipulation-fluids-and-electrolytes/Chapter%202.3.3/response-1l-normal-saline

Got that????? So 1000ml of Normal Saline increases your blood volume to 5250ml. Since we are talking about 750ml, let's convert it:

1000ml = 250ml increase, so 750ml = 187.5ml increase!

Got that????

So now what we have is the following:
2750 RBC / 5187.5 Blood = 53% hematocrit


WHICH MEANS THAT IF A PERSON IS AT 55% HEMATOCRIT AND TAKES 750ML OF NORMAL SALINE, HIS HEMATOCRIT ONLY DROPS TO 53%.

HAUSER SAYS:

Anything below 37% or above 51% indicates an irregularity.

WHICH MEANS THE PERSON STILL FAILS, YOU MORON!!!!!

R.I.P. THOMAS HAUSER

THANKS FOR PLAYING.

[Dosumpthin]

Get ready for yet another schooling, son!!!

Let's get the easy shlt out of the way first.



No, fool. Are you ******? That is not a quote from Jeff Novitzky. It is a quote from THOMAS HAUSER! You are too ****** to see where quotation marks begin and end. How can you be this dumb? Honestly, I don't believe you can be this ******. You have to be perpetually high to get this shlt wrong.




WRONG! THOMAS HAUSER HAS NO IDEA WHAT THE **** HE IS TALKING ABOUT!!!


He's so ****ing ****** that he thinks there is a 1:1 ratio of saline solution amount to the amount of blood volume added to a person's body. Jesus Christ, you are both idiots. Thomas Hauser, is that you????

Look here, you idiot. Let me explain this to you.

What Hauser is saying is this:

A person has about 5 liters of blood in their body. This can be verified.



Got that? Ok. so 5 liters, or 5000ml. Now. He's saying that we should start at a red blood cell count of 55%. That would mean that the red blood cell count is 2750, right?

2750/5000 = 55% hematocrit

Got that? Ok.

Now he says that you add 750ml of normal saline, and that reduces your RBC count to 47%.

2750 RBC / 5750 Blood = 47% hematocrit (actually .478, which can be rounded up to 48%). THIS IS ****ING WRONG!!!


In actuality, 750ml of normal saline doesn't increase your blood volume by 750ml, you idiot. 1000 ml of normal saline increases your blood volume by about 25%, that would be 250ml!



Got that????? So 1000ml of Normal Saline increases your blood volume to 5250ml. Since we are talking about 750ml, let's convert it:

1000ml = 250ml increase, so 750ml = 187.5ml increase!

Got that????

So now what we have is the following:
2750 RBC / 5187.5 Blood = 53% hematocrit


WHICH MEANS THAT IF A PERSON IS AT 55% HEMATOCRIT AND TAKES 750ML OF NORMAL SALINE, HIS HEMATOCRIT ONLY DROPS TO 53%.

HAUSER SAYS:



WHICH MEANS THE PERSON STILL FAILS, YOU MORON!!!!!

R.I.P. THOMAS HAUSER

THANKS FOR PLAYING.

Dayum dayum DAYUM.

****ing destroyed that idiot

[travestyny]

Dayum dayum DAYUM.

****ing destroyed that idiot

It doesn't really matter. He's clearly too dumb to understand any part of my post.

[Shape up]

Nope.

I will not go over this again.

This thread is almost 400 posts and all of what you just posted has been presented and soundly refuted several times.

BTW, I did not and will not watch the video.

Victo Conte is not a reliable source since he is agenda driven.

And it begins with Gabriel Montoya, a man with a proven record of publishing false information about Mayweather, also with an agenda.

Do you have anything new to offer?

Who would know better how to beat the system