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  • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
    Why has WADA done this?
    The manipulation WADA is targeting here is the use
    of an IV infusion to
    change blood test results (such as hematocrit where
    EPO is being used),
    urine tests results (by dilution), use in ‘weight s
    ports’ where an infusion will
    restore deliberately depleted hydration levels afte
    r the ‘weight-in’ and as part
    of blood doping.
    How should doctors manage the circumstances where t
    hey believe an
    athlete requires intravenous fluids?
    The WADA Code is clear; a retrospective TUE applica
    tion should be made to
    the appropriate TUE committee. The basis of the app
    lication and the
    deliberation of the TUEC will be on the interpretat
    ion of whether there was an
    acute medical situation and whether the infusion wa
    s the reasonable
    treatment. Therefore the information a doctor will
    need to provide to the TUEC
    must include the clinical circumstances that demons
    trates urgency and the
    appropriateness of an infusion.
    Unfortunately WADA has deliberately not defined the
    se circumstances.
    What are examples where it would be reasonable to u
    se an IV infusion?
    WADA has not as yet given specific guidance.
    ASDMAC has discussed the clinical circumstances whe
    re the committee
    would be comfortable approving a retrospective TUE.
    These would include
    the treatment of any acute medical condition where
    an IV line was essential,
    where there are significant acute changes to the vi
    tal signs or where there has
    been confirmation of the need for an IV by another
    independent doctor.
    Examples would be a severely dehydrated athlete wit
    h signs of circulatory
    compromise, the need for an IV line during a surgic
    al procedure, an IV line in
    the antibiotic treatment of an acute infection, etc
    .
    What are examples where it would not be reasonable
    to use an infusion?
    Circumstances where the condition was other than ac
    ute and/or there was an
    absence of significant change to the vital signs of
    the individual.
    Examples include the treatment of dehydration witho
    ut significant signs of
    circulatory stress (weight loss is not considered a
    vital sign alone) or the use
    of an IV infusion as a ‘recovery’ tool. It is worth
    noting that the evidence is that
    oral rehydration is superior to IV rehydration unle
    ss there are circulatory signs
    of collapse.
    It goes without saying that any use of an IV infusi
    on immediately prior to a
    drug test (whether blood or urine) would be conside
    red highly su****ious and
    should be avoided unless absolutely necessary.
    It is worth remembering that an inappropriate use o
    f an IV infusion could
    generate a doping violation charge against the doct
    or-------------- here is a very good article, did floyd meet the criteria NOOOOOOO
    another solid evidence..

    the truth keeps on chugging!

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    • Originally posted by RussTBE View Post
      You cant prove he was on anything. But you also cant deny he was kind of shady. They way he would announce fights super late then decide when testing begins as if he owns USADA like its a private organization. he literally gets to decide when hes tested.

      Then the 750ml Iv when he doesnt even cut weight. These are all su****ious things even though im a big fan of his,im not saying hes a cheat but alot of these boxers are probably on something so if floyd was doing something too its really not that surprising. Fans need to stop being naive.
      Yup, tell that to KoolKc, the band of Floyd fanboys spear headed by Travestyny and his close alt Dosompthin. They are blinded by their eternal love for Floyd.

      Your duty to your fellow brothers is to open their eyes of the reality their boy is shady as fuvk.

      Cheers!

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      • Originally posted by djtmal View Post
        only floyd boys who have no other life but to defend floyd's jankyness, will come up with 30 plus pages of pro-floyd-not-cheating theories...
        True

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        • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
          That's not true!!! We actually wish he did take steroids so we could enjoy this cake with a bit more chocolate!



          Yum!
          How does marquez ko of pac have anything to do with froid slapping him to a decision?

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          • Originally posted by Teetotaler View Post
            Lmfao you guys want to believe froid didnt take steroids so bad
            This thread is a classic example of what is ultimate denial. They will sacrifice their rational thinking for their love for their hero.

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            • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
              WADA confirmed that under the 2015 World Anti-Doping Code and the International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions (ISTUE), a retroactive TUE CAN be granted for an IV drip to combat dehydration. “For a case that WOULD BE monitored by WADA, yes the ISTUE could allow for intravenous infusions to be used in instances of dehydration”, a WADA spokesperson told the Sports Integrity Initiative. HOWEVER, the spokesperson added: “This case is NOT ONE THAT IS MONITORED by WADA because the World Boxing Council is not a signatory to the Code. We understand that USADA was contracted to conduct the anti-doping program for this fight----------- if it's not monitored, there is no but, it's a condition that wada needs to monitor it so corruption cant creep in
              No. You are having a lot of difficulty comprehending this.


              It says that as per WADA'S RULES, a retro TUE CAN be issued.


              If it was the case that it can't be, then whose rules are to be followed? This isn't rocket science.

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              • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                IV infusions during home visits, urgent care or after-hours clinics, boutique IV and rehydration services, and doctor’s office visits are not hospital admissions and would require an approved TUE in advance.----------- there is not but here either, you need a TUE in ADVANCE for an IV at your house, very easy to comprehend
                Wrong again.

                You still haven't learned what the word retroactive means.

                retroactive |ˌretrōˈaktiv|
                adjective
                (especially of legislation) taking effect from a date in the past



                Again, not rocket science. The spokesperson already confirmed this, according to WADA'S RULES.

                WADA confirmed that under the 2015 World Anti-Doping Code and the International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions (ISTUE), a retroactive TUE CAN be granted for an IV drip to combat dehydration. “For a case that WOULD BE monitored by WADA, yes the ISTUE could allow for intravenous infusions to be used in instances of dehydration”, a WADA spokesperson told the Sports Integrity Initiative.


                You keep linking to this, so how can you not understand that according to WADA'S RULES, it is allowed. It makes no sense for you to say that because WADA wasn't monitoring it, then it is not allowed.

                So USADA isn't allowed to give a retro TUE when WADA isn't monitoring? Is that your stance now. Ok. Then USADA should let athletes die, huh? You make no sense.

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                • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
                  This thread is a classic example of what is ultimate denial. They will sacrifice their rational thinking for their love for their hero.


                  You having another nervous breakdown, I see

                  Try Nyquil. Go to sleep!

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                  • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                    IV infusions during home visits, urgent care or after-hours clinics, boutique IV and rehydration services, and doctor’s office visits are not hospital admissions and would require an approved TUE in advance.----------- there is not but here either, you need a TUE in ADVANCE for an IV at your house, very easy to comprehend
                    8. Any appropriate cautionary matters
                    It is the responsibility of the treating physician to evaluate the clinical indication for an IV infusion or injection and the subsequent need for a TUE application.
                    At all times, the health and well-being of the athlete must remain the priority during medical investigations and treatments. TUECs should apply sound clinical judgment to their interpretation of the ISTUE, but be mindful of the inappropriate use of IV infusion in non-emergency situations where alternative permitted and evidence-based alternatives exist.

                    Why would the TUEC be told to use sound clinical judgement but to be mindful of the inappropriate use of IV infusion in non-emergency situations if they should not be reviewing usage that is not an emergency?

                    Obviously it doesn't have to be an emergency. This is very clear.


                    By the way, good job running from my question about the specific gravity test. I'm assuming you gave up. Let's hope ADP02 grows some balls and comes to help you out instead of ducking for a...what is it...2nd or 3rd day?

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                    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      the man they call the DEFLECTOR!!!
                      .
                      I'm still waiting!!!! You've been writing essay after essay....until I posed these questions. Then you went quiet. What is it, the 2nd or 3rd day since I posed these questions? Come on now, don't let us down. Let's get your answers posted, shall we?

                      OK, MAN THEY CALL DEFLECTOR! I answered your questions. Now. Nice and easy. Some questions for you. Let's see if you got any balls.


                      1. If an IV masks a urine sample by dilution, how is it that Floyd Mayweather was able to accomplish diluting his sample when the sample was tested for dilution by the USADA DCO and by the WADA laboratory? Mind you, the WADA laboratory doesn't have his name on the sample.

                      2. Was Lance Armstrong ever faced with the Athlete Biological Passport for the Steroidal module that Floyd Mayweather was faced with?

                      3. [A.]Did Lance Armstrong have to get a retro TUE from an independent group of doctors that didn't have his name on the application? [B.] Did WADA exist when Lance Armstrong received the retroactive TUE?

                      4. Was Lance Armstrong faced with the same caliber EPO test that Mayweather was faced with?

                      5. How do you think Mayweather's urine sample was altered to hide PEDs that you claim must have been in his system, yet the ABP with respect to the steroidal module was not set off?

                      6. Why does it make sense for a paid off USADA to involve a doping control officer, a paramedic, a personal physician, three independent doctors on the the****utic use exemptions committee, the NSAC, Manny Pacquiao, the public, a WADA lab, and WADA itself in their attempt to protect Floyd Mayweather when the best plan of action would clearly be to tell Floyd when they were coming, refuse to document the IV, or both. Clearly they could have stayed away, had the paramedic give him the IV and leave, and then take the sample and no one would know. Please explain.

                      I know you can't answer this because your previous answer was that they would find plasticizers, but this was debunked by me. So where do you go from there?

                      7. [A.] Why would the DCO take a urine sample from before the IV if Mayweather was using PED's before the IV? [B.] Why would the DCO take a urine sample from AFTER the IV if the IV infused PED's into Mayweather?

                      8. [A.] Is Mayweather Promotions the only promotional company that has paid $100,000 for USADA testing? [B.] Do you have a problem with Arum paying $20,000 for VADA to test Pacquiao, or is that quite alright?


                      I'll be waiting for your answers. You better not deflect, bltch. When you fail miserably, I'll be here laughing at you. Come on...give me something sig worthy! I'm looking forward to having a good laugh at your expense.


                      DO NOT DEFLECT OR DUCK. ANSWER MY QUESTIONS.

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