Here's Where All The Floyd Cheat Theories Fail

[travestyny]

A la Lance Armstrong, right? Ooops!

Yep, exactly. Thanks for making my point.

USADA tore him a new a$shole when he tried to pull that shyt.


Happy you realize your comparison to Lance is a joke

[travestyny]

I called it.

Man, you couldn't even hold out for 24 hours.


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Sorry that you're wanting me to leave you alone. After you gave false quotations and left out some information in our last discussion, I did indeed decide I'm done arguing with you.


I have stated since our thunderdome thread that I'm going to keep clowning you for the rest of your time here. THAT will never change

But it won't be all bad. Here. Have some muf****ing cake:

[ADP02]

I wonder why these fact don't sink in???

'Shape up'.....

Answer the damn question

I asked ADP02 the same question. He said the specific gravity test used by WADA is faulty

These dudes need the sun, moon, and stars to align to fit their agendas

ADP02

If you didn't know and I asked you these scenarios that factually occurred. would you say to me that it was impossible????:

1) Lance Armstrong was on PEDs. The DCO was there. Lance Armstrong's doc smuggled the IV and gave the IV to Armstrong. It may have taken 15-20 minutes ....


- You would have said that is impossible for a number of reasons including that the DCO is always supposed to be able to see you.
- That the doctor would have to be in on it.
- That the DCO would have to be in on it.




2) Lance Armstrong used PEDs and provided a RETRO prescription that was back dated.
You would have said that is impossible because:
- That the doctor would have to be in on it.
- That the DCO would have to be in on it.
- That the UCI would have to be in on it.
- That the UCI has caught other athletes so what made Lance so special?



Athletes have cheated without the luxury of having USADA on their side, as is the case with Floyd. Yet you act like Floyd's scenario was cheat proof???????

WOW!!!

Kigali,
there is not one possible scenario, there are multiple scenarios!!! Look at Lance Armstrong. He was paying lots of people. According to Travestyny it's not possible to be paying like Floyd yet have a paper trail.
Well, that is nonsense number 1!!!

Lance still had the paper trail even though he paid his doctor BIG. Paid UCI ....


Lance Armstrong has shown that what they did to excape getting caught sounds far fetched in the eyes of someone like Travestyny BUT those are FACTUAL examples.

Read above. If Travestyny was a Lance Armstrong fan, he would be saying that it was not possible to get an IV with the DCO in Lance's sight at all times. Well it happened and there is always a way but sometimes it's not easy.


Lance's situation was NOT ideal nor did I expect Floyd's situation to be ideal. That is why Floyd DELAYED 6+ hours and had that BANNED IV.

the delay and IV can make the difference between being caught with PEDs or not.

Some drugs expel from your body quickly in a matter of hours while others such as marijuana metabolites, take longer.


AGAIN, Travestyny DEFLECTs when I bring up Lance's scenarios. He does not want to admit to the truth that he would have said that those scenarios were not possible but we all know that they were!!!

See on how he clings to that the DCO was always next to Floyd but was he? This DCO must have been in every video so he must be easy to spot, right?

Even funnier, he mentions that the DCO saw Floyd's condition. WHAT??? The DCO is not qualified to respond to determine whether Floyd needed an IV or just fluids would do.


Finally, none of you can admit it but Floyd's excuses are all LIES!!! You guys do not have any answer for that. So to say, Floyd didn't need BANNED IV and since he didn't we know why he delayed and got that IV!!!



and .... Travestyny, STOP DEFLECTING!!!!


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[travestyny]

Kigali,
there is not one possible scenario, there are multiple scenarios!!! Look at Lance Armstrong. He was paying lots of people. According to Travestyny it's not possible to be paying like Floyd yet have a paper trail.
Well, that is nonsense number 1!!!

Lance still had the paper trail even though he paid his doctor BIG. Paid UCI ....


Lance Armstrong has shown that what they did to excape getting caught sounds far fetched in the eyes of someone like Travestyny BUT those are FACTUAL examples.

Read above. If Travestyny was a Lance Armstrong fan, he would be saying that it was not possible to get an IV with the DCO in Lance's sight at all times. Well it happened and there is always a way but sometimes it's not easy.


Lance's situation was NOT ideal nor did I expect Floyd's situation to be ideal. That is why Floyd DELAYED 6+ hours and had that BANNED IV.

the delay and IV can make the difference between being caught with PEDs or not.

Some drugs expel from your body quickly in a matter of hours while others such as marijuana metabolites, take longer.


AGAIN, Travestyny DEFLECTs when I bring up Lance's scenarios. He does not want to admit to the truth that he would have said that those scenarios were not possible but we all know that they were!!!

See on how he clings to that the DCO was always next to Floyd but was he? This DCO must have been in every video so he must be easy to spot, right?

Even funnier, he mentions that the DCO saw Floyd's condition. WHAT??? The DCO is not qualified to respond to determine whether Floyd needed an IV or just fluids would do.


Finally, none of you can admit it but Floyd's excuses are all LIES!!! You guys do not have any answer for that. So to say, Floyd didn't need BANNED IV and since he didn't we know why he delayed and got that IV!!!



and .... Travestyny, STOP DEFLECTING!!!!


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Oh really??????


1. Lance Armstrong took tests when there was no suitable EPO test.

2. Lance Armstrong was flagged for su****ious tests and would have failed had there been adequate testing.

3. Lance Armstrong didn't have a DCO present.

4. Lance Armstrong masked blood tests, not urine tests.

5. Lance Armstrong was caught by USADA!

6. Lance Armstrong had to pay off the UCI because the WADA labs flagged his shlt for being su****ious.

7. Lance Armstrong's blatantly broke UCI's rules.



Which of that is like Floyd? None.


You butthurt bltch. DEFLECT MY NUTS OUT YA MOUFFFFFFF.


I'll give you one last chance. Explain what Floyd did here. His samples were checked for dilution, correct? Now explain what he did. This is your last chance, f@g. Let's see if you can do it.

Who did he pay off, and what did they do for him? Explain completely how his urine that was checked for dilution was somehow diluted enough to mask. I'm dying to hear it. Don't deflect now

When you realize that you're stuck at "there is a problem with the specific gravity test".....game over, bltch

[ADP02]

Yep, exactly. Thanks for making my point.

USADA tore him a new a$shole when he tried to pull that shyt.


Happy you realize your comparison to Lance is a joke

UCI got other athletes as well. So what! UCI "protected" Lance while USADA "protects" Floyd.


and as Juan Marquez admits, NEVADA "protects" Floyd, as everyone knows!!!



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[travestyny]

UCI got other athletes as well. So what! UCI "protected" Lance while USADA "protects" Floyd.


and as Juan Marquez admits, NEVADA "protects" Floyd, as everyone knows!!!



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Sounds easy enough, right? Explain. I'm waiting

Step up. Don't be a deflector, ADP02. I want you to tell me the facts.

1. An IV masks urine tests by dilution -- FACT.
2. Mayweather gave a sample from before the IV.
3. Mayweathr gave a sample from AFTER the IV.
4. The samples were checked to ensure they were NOT diluted by the DCO AND the WADA lab.
5. If Mayweather would have failed, results would have been sent directly to WADA since it was all uploaded to the ADAMS database. Meaning USADA can't cover for his failed test.


So.....explain. I'm all ears!

[travestyny]

Come on, ADP02. What's taking you so long. Are you deciding if you will duck or deflect?


Here, let me give you some background information. These are the facts!


A. IV use masks a PED test BY DILUTION!

WHY THE IV RULE?

• To protect clean sport and athlete health and safety. It is a fact that IVs can be used to change blood test results (such as hematocrit where EPO or blood doping is being used), mask urine test results (by dilution) or by administering prohibited substances in a way that will more quickly be cleared from the body in order to beat an anti-doping test.

OK, great. So we established that you mask urine tests by dilution.

B. THE DCO TESTS THE URINE SAMPLE TO ENSURE IT IS NOT DILUTED!

The DCO tests the residual volume of urine remaining in the Sample collection vessel to determine if the Sample has a Suitable Specific Gravity for Analysis. The specific gravity measurement must be greater than or equal to 1.005 if using a refractometer, or greater than or equal to 1.010 with lab sticks.

Great. The DCO checks to make sure the sample is not diluted. But wait...maybe the DCO is lying, right? Ok. Is this information verified by anyone else? Yup.

C. THE INDEPENDENT WADA LAB TESTS THE URINE SAMPLE...FOR DILUTION!

5.2.4.1.2 The Laboratory shall measure the pH and specific gravity. Other tests that may assist in the evaluation of adulteration or manipulation may be performed if deemed necessary by the Laboratory.

So seems that I was giving you facts, huh? The DCO checks for dilution. The laboratory checks for dilution. The samples that go to the laboratory, as we all know, are ANONYMOUS. Meaning they don't have the athletes' names on them.

Not only are the samples anonymous, Mayweather would have to pay off BOTH WADA labs because he has no idea where his sample is going.
There are 2 WADA laboratories in the US (one in Utah, and one in LA). That means Mayweather would not know where the urine sample from May 1st is going to. So if you're thinking he paid off a lab, he would have had to pay off both labs.

Oh....but this time was different than the other times, right? He did something funky to his urine with that IV. Well, enter the ABP Steroidal Module

The urine sample would raise a red flag if it does not fit the other urine samples for the steroidal module of the Athlete Biological Passport. Due to this process being automated and anonymous, the results are automatically sent to the WADA ADAMS database

6. WHAT IS INCLUDED IN A STEROID PROFILE? UP

A steroid profile is measured on all urine samples. It consists of the urinary concentrations of Testosterone, Epitestosterone, Androsterone, Etiocholanolone, 5a-androstane-3a,17β-diol and 5β-androstane-3a,17β-diol, together with the specific gravity of the urine sample. The steroid profile is reported in ADAMS by WADA accredited laboratories for all urine samples. Further ratios are calculated to detect multiple forms of steroid doping.

7. HOW ARE ANONYMOUS TESTS MATCHED TO A SPECIFIC ATHLETE’S STEROIDAL PASSPORT? UP

When doping controls are performed, the authorizing agency (Testing Authority or Sample Collection Authority) must enter the doping control forms (DCFs) into ADAMS. The DCFs and the laboratory results are matched automatically by ADAMS and the new steroid profile collated in the athlete’s Passport. The athlete is assigned a Biological Passport Identification Code (BP ID) to maintain anonymity within the system.

The Steroidal Module using URINE came into effect January 2014. The last time Lance Armstrong was tested by USADA was in 2010!!! He made his admission of guilt in 2013

Mayweather was tested 79 times by USADA since 2014!!!

Sooooo, still waiting. Tell me how he did it!!! What's taking you so long!

[ADP02]

Oh really??????


1. Lance Armstrong took tests when there was no suitable EPO test.

2. Lance Armstrong was flagged for su****ious tests and would have failed had there been adequate testing.

3. Lance Armstrong didn't have a DCO present.

4. Lance Armstrong masked blood tests, not urine tests.

5. Lance Armstrong was caught by USADA!

6. Lance Armstrong had to pay off the UCI because the WADA labs flagged his shlt for being su****ious.

7. Lance Armstrong's blatantly broke UCI's rules.



Which of that is like Floyd? None.


You butthurt bltch. DEFLECT MY NUTS OUT YA MOUFFFFFFF.


I'll give you one last chance. Explain what Floyd did here. His samples were checked for dilution, correct? Now explain what he did. This is your last chance, f@g. Let's see if you can do it.

Who did he pay off, and what did they do for him? Explain completely how his urine that was checked for dilution was somehow diluted enough to mask. I'm dying to hear it. Don't deflect now

When you realize that you're stuck at "there is a problem with the specific gravity test".....game over, bltch

BIG TIME DEFLECTION by the man they call the DEFLECTOR!!!

WOW, more deflections!!!


ALL that I'm asking is, go check out what Lance Armstrong had to do to escape getting caught. Now add that Lance required and got the assistance from several people. Very similar to what you state as impossible that it can happen when it comes to Floyd?

You said that everyone had to be in on it and that is IMPOSSIBLE .... but as I pointed out, it happened with Lance Armstrong.





and yes there are big time similarities.

Lance Armstrong wasn't paying off USADA. He was paying off UCI, his doctor and others ....

Floyd was paying off USADA, his own "doctor" and others .....


Now if you want to discuss tactics, that is another story.
- YES, they both delayed getting tested.

- Yes, they both got a RETRO TUE

- yes, they both got their doctor's note and without that, Lance and FLoyd were cooked!

As stated above, they both paid off someone that can help them BIG TIME when it comes to cheating. USADA/UCI. So they had a reason to return a favor.


- They both came up with BS excuses to use the BANNED method/substance.

- Both claimed that they never were caught cheating.

- Both rumored to have been tested positive.

- Both had questionable results.

- BOTH used Banned method and or substance and had to get a RETRO TUE by the group that they paid off!!! How convenient!

- Both used an IV where it was not warranted.

- Floyd (presuming Lance too) stated on his pre-fight form, he had no serious medical issues.

- Both were top dudes in their sport in which their downfall could have been a big hit for USADA/UCI as well!

- Unlike what Travestyny thinks, BOTH still had to go thru dem paper work.


Floyd got a RETRO TUE but shouldn't have
- USADA says this:
"USADA considers retroactive TUEs only in emergency circumstances,"

WADA/USADA:
"It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific evidence to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice, potentially even more effective than IV infusion."

- "Head of WADA TUE committee"
Said that Floyd shouldn't have received a RETRO TUE


Lance shouldn't have received no RETRO TUE either!!!!



So there are Lots of similarities but the questions that you DEFLECTED still needs to be answered by the one and only .... the man they call the DEFLECTOR!!!


Looking back objectively at Lance's factual case, would you not have done the same if you were a Lance Armstrong fan? That is, state that those scenarios of getting those top officials, doctors, and so on to be in on it would be IMPOSSIBLE to have occurred?


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[Shape up]

Um....what the actual **** does that have to do with his urine samples being checked for dilution by two separate en******?

Obviously I'm giving you too much credit, I forget your a halfwit, read it ten or so times and see if you can work it out

[travestyny]

Now if you want to discuss tactics, that is another story.
- YES, they both delayed getting tested.

- Yes, they both got a RETRO TUE

- yes, they both got their doctor's note and without that, Lance and FLoyd were cooked!

As stated above, they both paid off someone that can help them BIG TIME when it comes to cheating. USADA/UCI. So they had a reason to return a favor.


- They both came up with BS excuses to use the BANNED method/substance.

- Both claimed that they never were caught cheating.

- Both rumored to have been tested positive.

- Both had questionable results.

- BOTH used Banned method and or substance and had to get a RETRO TUE by the group that they paid off!!! How convenient!

- Both used an IV where it was not warranted.

- Floyd (presuming Lance too) stated on his pre-fight form, he had no serious medical issues.

- Both were top dudes in their sport in which their downfall could have been a big hit for USADA/UCI as well!

- Unlike what Travestyny thinks, BOTH still had to go thru dem paper work.


Floyd got a RETRO TUE but shouldn't have
- USADA says this:
"USADA considers retroactive TUEs only in emergency circumstances,"

WADA/USADA:
"It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific evidence to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice, potentially even more effective than IV infusion."

- "Head of WADA TUE committee"
Said that Floyd shouldn't have received a RETRO TUE


Lance shouldn't have received no RETRO TUE either!!!!



So there are Lots of similarities but the questions that you DEFLECTED still needs to be answered by the one and only .... the man they call the DEFLECTOR!!!


Looking back objectively at Lance's factual case, would you not have done the same if you were a Lance Armstrong fan? That is, state that those scenarios of getting those top officials, doctors, and so on to be in on it would be IMPOSSIBLE to have occurred?


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LMAOOOOO. LOOK HOW YOU DEFLECTEDDDDDDD!!!!!! IT WAS A SIMPLE QUESTION!!!


IV MASKS BY DILUTION.

SAMPLES WERE CHECKED 2X FOR DILUTION.

ADD IN THE ATHLETE BIOLOGICAL PASSPORT STEROIDAL MODULE.


GO. TELL US HOW HE DID IT!!!! I damn sure don't see an answer there!!!

ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!!! STOP DEFLECTING!