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  • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
    The only fighters that would be considered in this arguement would be fighters that had an IV after a weigh in, BJ penn comes to mind
    Or De La Hoya.

    He had an IV after the weigh-in. Yet we never heard anything about Nevada saying that he was dehydrated.

    He so obviously was. Miraculously, he passed the physical.

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    • Dudes a top level modern athlete, of course he has juiced at some point.

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      • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
        GETTING CLOSER!!!!

        CAN YOU GIVE A CLEAR ANSWER, OR WILL YOU CONTINUE TO DUCK AND DEFLECT?


        DID MANNY PACQUIAO LIE ABOUT HIS SHOULDER INJURY? YES OR NO?
        You are an idioto!!!


        I already responded to your questions and you deflect away!


        Your point is what by the way? That Manny was not injured?



        Manny was NOT the one who used BANNED method that is your hero Floyd.


        Manny was not even allowed to get the meds ... so again, what is your point? the Nevada SAC was all over Manny. They were setting up an investigation.

        The only reason that they stopped with the investigation is because your hero Floyd got hit with the IV scandal and of course, the NSAC said Floyd, who said that he had no medical issues on the same pre-fight form, said that "Floyd did nothing wrong"


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        • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
          FINAL QUESTIONS FOR YOU, SINCE YOU'RE JUST ABOUT PUT BACK IN THAT GRAVE THAT I PUT YOU IN DURING OUR THUNDERDOME BATTLE


          1. How many times has NSAC ever found a boxer to be dehydrated that you know of?

          2. Do you believe that a boxer has ever gone into a fight in the state of Nevada dehydrated?



          I bet you duck and deflect

          1.
          Some fighters are not fit to fight due to their dehydrated state. Castillo comes to mind.

          but you deflect......

          The NSAC physician does not need to stop the fighter from fighting. They can just point out the symptoms or issues that the fighter may or may not have.

          Vital signs? Were normal for Floyd!
          Weight? 150, 149, 148, 146 in the last 30 days. Nothing unusual.
          NSAC physician checks for a few other signs .....

          USADA should have done a thorough investigation!!! Interview the NSAC physician. Determine if Floyd showed the signs of a severally depleted individual!




          2. WADA rules? If they are dehydrated then they shouldn't be using an IV!!! Floyd did!!!

          Floyd was interviewed recently that Mcgregor was illegally using IVs. WOW!!!

          At the time of their weigh in, who do you think would more than likely be considered more depleted hence be more inclined to believe that they were drained enough to warrant an IV? Floyd or McGregor?





          You will deflect but Floyd doesn't on this one. He even boasted about this right after getting his 2 BANNED IV bags!!!





          I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148...I'm extremely happy with everything ... right now...




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          • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            You are an idioto!!!


            I already responded to your questions and you deflect away!


            Your point is what by the way? That Manny was not injured?



            Manny was NOT the one who used BANNED method that is your hero Floyd.


            Manny was not even allowed to get the meds ... so again, what is your point? the Nevada SAC was all over Manny. They were setting up an investigation.

            The only reason that they stopped with the investigation is because your hero Floyd got hit with the IV scandal and of course, the NSAC said Floyd, who said that he had no medical issues on the same pre-fight form, said that "Floyd did nothing wrong"


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            You still deflecting?????

            Unbelievable!!!!!


            One more time: DID MANNY PACQUIAO LIE ABOUT HIS SHOULDER?


            WHY WON'T YOU ANSWER, ADP02?

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            • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              1.
              Some fighters are not fit to fight due to their dehydrated state. Castillo comes to mind.

              but you deflect......

              The NSAC physician does not need to stop the fighter from fighting. They can just point out the symptoms or issues that the fighter may or may not have.

              Vital signs? Were normal for Floyd!
              Weight? 150, 149, 148, 146 in the last 30 days. Nothing unusual.
              NSAC physician checks for a few other signs .....

              USADA should have done a thorough investigation!!! Interview the NSAC physician. Determine if Floyd showed the signs of a severally depleted individual!




              2. WADA rules? If they are dehydrated then they shouldn't be using an IV!!! Floyd did!!!

              Floyd was interviewed recently that Mcgregor was illegally using IVs. WOW!!!

              At the time of their weigh in, who do you think would more than likely be considered more depleted hence be more inclined to believe that they were drained enough to warrant an IV? Floyd or McGregor?





              You will deflect but Floyd doesn't on this one. He even boasted about this right after getting his 2 BANNED IV bags!!!





              I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148...I'm extremely happy with everything ... right now...




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              OH MY GOD! You are a MASTER DEFLECTOR!!!! WHY CAN'T YOU ANSWER ANY ****ING QUESTION. THIS IS HYSTERICAL

              1. How many times has NSAC ever found a boxer to be dehydrated that you know of?


              THAT REQUIRES A NUMBER FOR AN ANSWER, YOU IDIOT!

              2. Do you believe that a boxer has ever gone into a fight in the state of Nevada dehydrated?


              Where are your answers?????



              I told you that you would DEFLECT

              By the way, what the **** do you think the the****utic use exemptions committee does if not investigate, you absolute moron!

              You're done, son. Stop writing to me. You've proven you can't answer even one simple question straight up. The **** outta here until you grow some balls.

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              • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                Or De La Hoya.

                He had an IV after the weigh-in. Yet we never heard anything about Nevada saying that he was dehydrated.

                He so obviously was. Miraculously, he passed the physical.
                Yeah but by WADA rules you would need to be severely dehydrated, an emergency to get a TUE for an IV yet fluid managed it, it wasn't even a prior TUE which their rule states, prohibited at ALL TIMES if I remember correctly

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                • Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
                  It's amazing how these huggers ignore every valid point that we've raised to fit their own agenda.

                  What they still can't explain is Floyd's sketchy testosterone levels among other things.

                  – Mayweather’s people agreed to settle a defamation suit with Pacquiao quickly — and for more money than expected — as soon as Pacquiao’s side began demanding documents regarding Mayweather’s drug tests through USADA and the NSAC.

                  – Mayweather had abnormally low T/E (testosterone) ratios prior to the Robert Guerrero and Victor Ortiz fights. Low T/E ratios could indicate tampering/efforts to lower your ratio to cover up testosterone use.

                  – Mayweather uses contracts that allow for the****utic use exemptions (TUE) to be retroactively granted after someone tests positive for a prohibited drug. What’s the point of even having testing if you can just get a waiver for it after you fail a test? Mayweather gave Pacquiao a contract that included this clause.

                  – Mayweather delays the official announcement of his fights until well after they leak publicly as a loophole for potential drug use. Mayweather does not engage in true year-round Olympic-style testing. Rather, he dictates terms of testing to USADA and tells them testing can only begin once the fight has been announced. This delay would theoretically allow Mayweather to use PEDs for the months leading up to fights without risking being caught.
                  You are correct.

                  One of the big issues with all of this is USADA's lack of transparency.

                  If Manny's team wouldn't have pointed out the lack of transparency and have Floyd change the contract, we would not have even known about Floyd's delays in giving his urine sample and the BANNED IVs!

                  The only thing that Manny's team missed is that Floyd could still get the BANNED IVs and get a BS RETRO TUE after the fact. So to say, nobody knew about this scam until well after the fight!


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                  • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                    Yeah but by WADA rules you would need to be severely dehydrated, an emergency to get a TUE for an IV yet fluid managed it, it wasn't even a prior TUE which their rule states, prohibited at ALL TIMES if I remember correctly
                    We've been through this man times. That's not what the rules say:


                    4.3 An Athlete may only be granted retroactive approval for his/her The****utic Use of a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method (i.e., a retroactive TUE) if:

                    a. Emergency treatment or treatment of an acute medical condition was necessary; or
                    b. Due to other exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time or opportunity for the Athlete to submit, or for the TUEC to consider, an application for the TUE prior to Sample collection; or
                    c. The applicable rules required the Athlete (see comment to Article 5.1) or permitted the Athlete (see Code Article 4.4.5) to apply for a retroactive TUE; or
                    [Comment to 4.3(c): Such Athletes are strongly advised to have a medical file prepared and ready to demonstrate their satisfaction of the TUE conditions set out at Article 4.1, in case an application for a retroactive TUE is necessary following Sample collection.]
                    d. It is agreed, by WADA and by the Anti-Doping Organization to whom the application for a retroactive TUE is or would be made, that fairness requires the grant of a retroactive TUE.

                    It has been stated by USADA that the DCO witnessed Floyd's physical condition that made the IV necessary. Until anyone finds out what that was, that only leaves speculation.

                    For some of you, it is soooo important if he took this IV. Most of us with a brain don't give a shlt UNLESS it can be proven that he took PED'S.

                    BUT WHEN I ASK YOU GUYS TO EXPLAIN HOW HE DILUTED HIS URINE SAMPLE WITH AN IV AND FOOLED THE SPECIFIC GRAVITY TEST DONE BY THE DCO AND THE SPECIFIC GRAVITY TEST DONE BY THE INDEPENDENT WADA LAB.....

                    NOTHING.

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                    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      You are correct.

                      One of the big issues with all of this is USADA's lack of transparency.

                      If Manny's team wouldn't have pointed out the lack of transparency and have Floyd change the contract, we would not have even known about Floyd's delays in giving his urine sample and the BANNED IVs!

                      The only thing that Manny's team missed is that Floyd could still get the BANNED IVs and get a BS RETRO TUE after the fact. So to say, nobody knew about this scam until well after the fight!


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                      HAVE FLOYD CHANGE THE CONTRACT?????? Dude. You've been going on and on about this, and you still have no idea what the **** you are talking about????

                      Floyd wasn't responsible for any lack of transparency, you buffoon. Neither is USADA. It was WADA's rules that they wanted to tweak. Once Pacquiao asked for that, USADA went back to Floyd and told him what Pacquiao wanted, and Mayweather agreed that it was no problem.


                      Now EXPLAIN HOW HE DILUTED HIS URINE TO MASK PED'S....THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY CHECKED FOR DILUTION BY THE DCO AND THE INDEPENDENT WADA LAB.


                      Go!
                      Last edited by travestyny; 10-08-2017, 03:16 AM.

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