What fight was Pacquiao's peak?

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  • Reloaded
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    #51
    Originally posted by Hype Job
    Lol Cotto showed no signs of being drained in that fight, he looked better physically than when he fought Floyd.
    In your dreams kid lol.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Reloaded
      In your dreams kid lol.
      What signs of being drained did he show?

      He was faster than he was in the Floyd fight.

      He simply gets hit too much, doesn't have a great right hand, he could never beat Pac. Bad style matchup for him.

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      • FrankieClutch
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        #53
        The Cotto or Margarito fight. He dominated both, but those took a huge physical toll on Manny

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          #54
          Originally posted by Hype Job
          What signs of being drained did he show?

          He was faster than he was in the Floyd fight.

          He simply gets hit too much, doesn't have a great right hand, he could never beat Pac. Bad style matchup for him.
          He said it himself, the proof is in that Manny beats him with a CW but refuses to fight him without a CW, its the same fighter so it has to be weight that makes all the difference , cant be anything else, geez Manny called Cotto out and Cotto said fine no CW and Manny took off and Floyd stepped in.

          If Manny can beat Cotto he can beat him at any weight, if he can only beat with a CW then it was the weight.

          Cotto was nowhere near as strong as in the May fight or had nowhere near the resistance, the Cotto that fought Floyd runs over the Cotto that fought Manny.

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            #55
            2009's manny

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              #56
              Originally posted by Reloaded
              He said it himself, the proof is in that Manny beats him with a CW but refuses to fight him without a CW, its the same fighter so it has to be weight that makes all the difference , cant be anything else, geez Manny called Cotto out and Cotto said fine no CW and Manny took off and Floyd stepped in.

              If Manny can beat Cotto he can beat him at any weight, if he can only beat with a CW then it was the weight.

              Cotto was nowhere near as strong as in the May fight or had nowhere near the resistance, the Cotto that fought Floyd runs over the Cotto that fought Manny.
              The Cotto that fought Floyd had more wear and tear after being brutalised.

              He was also slower at 154, Pac would have probably beaten him even easier as the speed disadvantage would have been larger.

              Pac offered to fight him at 147. Where's the catchweight? Pac made it clear he wasn't fighting above WW after the Margs fight.

              Was Canelo drained in your opinion?

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                #57
                Originally posted by Hype Job
                The Cotto that fought Floyd had more wear and tear after being brutalised.

                He was also slower at 154, Pac would have probably beaten him even easier as the speed disadvantage would have been larger.

                Pac offered to fight him at 147. Where's the catchweight? Pac made it clear he wasn't fighting above WW after the Margs fight.

                Was Canelo drained in your opinion?


                That's the rabies talking.

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                  #58
                  I will say the Cotto fight. After that one he kind of jumped the shark so to speak.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Hype Job
                    The Cotto that fought Floyd had more wear and tear after being brutalised.

                    He was also slower at 154, Pac would have probably beaten him even easier as the speed disadvantage would have been larger.

                    Pac offered to fight him at 147. Where's the catchweight? Pac made it clear he wasn't fighting above WW after the Margs fight.

                    Was Canelo drained in your opinion?
                    The Cotto that fought Floyd was mentally rejuvenated by beating Margarito he was mentally wrecked when Manny fought him, the monkey was off his back after he avenged the cheat beating.

                    A CW is a contracted weight lower or higher than where you fight, the idea that because its says 147 is not at CW when you fight at 154 is ignorant , a division is say WW 141 to 147, how is 146 a CW but 147 isn't when a guy is fighting at 154. Its a contracted weight written into the contract other than your usual fighting weight that is what defines it.

                    So Manny made it clear lol , Cotto is the same man you are admitting the difference in the two fights is weight, meaning Manny didn't beat Cotto he beat the guy that had a contracted weight, he called him out at when Cotto was 154 champ and then ran from the fight.

                    Canelo was weight effected as much as Cotto was the difference is in the style of fighters, Floyd is not a physical fighter weights don't effect him as much as power guy, Floyd would have a lot of trouble beating Canelo at 160 because not only is bigger and stronger he is a lot more seasoned and a better fighter than he was back then.

                    The difference with Floyd in all this is he didn't call Canelo out at 160 and then Canelo says ok but no CW and Floyd runs away so Manny steps in and beats him, that's exactly what Manny did .

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by FrankieClutch
                      The Cotto or Margarito fight. He dominated both, but those took a huge physical toll on Manny
                      Add Clottey in there as a physically draining fight.. Fight was one sided but the few punches Pac took..hurt him. Clottey is naturally much bigger than Pac

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