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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    #61
    Originally posted by Vinnykin
    Why pick Corcoran and make yourself out to be a ***** then? Horn won't be nothing against a tall, rangy boxer/mover like SKeete. Eats a jab for 12 rounds.
    Eats is the right term, as in eat and keep walking through them while nailing hooks to that chin - and Skeete is questionable at best. I don't know why people are overrating him because he's lanky. He hasn't fought on a world title stage, he has no names except Gavin who he LOST to, 2011 on he fought AND WENT THE DISTANCE with bum after bum after bum.

    Meanwhile Jeff "The Hornet" Horn has stopped two and effectively retired three name fighters, causing the third to basically duck him in the rematch. Skeete gets hurt if they ever get in the ring.

    I don't know why Arum or whoever picked Corcoran, but I've got no problems with a tune-up after piecing Manny up.

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    • Bronx2245
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      #62
      Originally posted by Vinnykin
      It was a close decision 3 years ago. Skeete has improved massively since then. Don't look into losses from 3 years ago which was his first step up to British level. Look at his record since then.

      Lucas Matthyse would be giving up over 5" in height and has just moved up. He's tailor-made for Skeete who is a boxer/mover and big at the weight. Only chance Matthyse has is a ko imo, a very small chance.
      WBO has Matthysse # 2, and Skeete #3, so it makes sense! Make it happen!

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      • pasawayako
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        #63
        Great fight. Horn will show the world how great he is.

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          #64
          Originally posted by revelated
          Eats is the right term, as in eat and keep walking through them while nailing hooks to that chin - and Skeete is questionable at best. I don't know why people are overrating him because he's lanky. He hasn't fought on a world title stage, he has no names except Gavin who he LOST to, 2011 on he fought AND WENT THE DISTANCE with bum after bum after bum.

          Meanwhile Jeff "The Hornet" Horn has stopped two and effectively retired three name fighters, causing the third to basically duck him in the rematch. Skeete gets hurt if they ever get in the ring.

          I don't know why Arum or whoever picked Corcoran, but I've got no problems with a tune-up after piecing Manny up.
          And my boy Josh Taylor beat Horn in the amateurs in 2011? Frankie Gavin was a very good amateur boxer, against Skeete it was a chess-match and close. No disgrace losing a close decision to an accomplished gold medal winning amateur who was above your level at the time. Skeete has improved massively since then and so has Horn who was not as good an amateur as Frankie Gavin.

          It's obvious they picked the weaker boxer because Skeete will outbox Horn and give him fits. They don't want to fight a guy like Skeete who can move and is a much better boxer than Horn will ever be. That's not to say Horn might not knock him out, sometimes the pressure fighter wins, I just haven't seen anything from Horn in the amateurs or pro's to suggest he does well against Skeete's style.

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          • Vinnykin
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            #65
            Originally posted by Bronx2245
            WBO has Matthysse # 2, and Skeete #3, so it makes sense! Make it happen!
            I would much rather they just picked the best boxer and gave Skeete a chance instead of BS Corcoran.

            Plain cowardly duck from Horn's people who know Skeete will outbox and make him look bad.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Vinnykin
              And my boy Josh Taylor beat Horn in the amateurs in 2011? Frankie Gavin was a very good amateur boxer, against Skeete it was a chess-match and close. No disgrace losing a close decision to an accomplished gold medal winning amateur who was above your level at the time. Skeete has improved massively since then and so has Horn who was not as good an amateur as Frankie Gavin.

              It's obvious they picked the weaker boxer because Skeete will outbox Horn and give him fits. They don't want to fight a guy like Skeete who can move and is a much better boxer than Horn will ever be. That's not to say Horn might not knock him out, sometimes the pressure fighter wins, I just haven't seen anything from Horn in the amateurs or pro's to suggest he does well against Skeete's style.
              As Manny Pacquiao taught us from the Horn fight, even an ATG can be bullied around the ring like a B, so what makes Skeete so different? Range? Didn't help Algieri against Manny when Manny was pressuring him.

              It also doesn't help Skeete's case that Horn has an iron cast chin and gets stronger when confronted with a losing proposition (we saw that against both Manny AND Bailey).

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              • Vinnykin
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                #67
                Originally posted by revelated
                As Manny Pacquiao taught us from the Horn fight, even an ATG can be bullied around the ring like a B, so what makes Skeete so different? Range? Didn't help Algieri against Manny when Manny was pressuring him.

                It also doesn't help Skeete's case that Horn has an iron cast chin and gets stronger when confronted with a losing proposition (we saw that against both Manny AND Bailey).
                An ATG that was 38 years old and had been declining for years, prime Pacquaio batters Horn to a pulp. He's a part-time boxer now and I don't give Horn much credit going life and death with an over-the-hill Manny who is a midget at the weight and who had lost his speed and power.

                Randall Bailey? lol. Guy was over 40.

                I'm seeing a pattern here. The guy is fighting old, past-it fighters in his hometown and getting way too much credit. Jeff Horn is tough and big at the weight but he has fought no one in their prime or even close to their prime.

                Clever matchmaking by his advisors, fighting guys at the end of their careers or doing boxing part-time. This is proven further by their cowardly move to fight one of the worst WW's in Britain when they were offered the British champion and No.3 in the rankings.

                Clear duck. Skeete has been calling this guy out and he turned it down to face a no-hoper so he can hold onto his belt and fight an even further declined Pacquaio again who has been working in his senate role since the fight, has not been boxing, and will be 39 years old by the time of the next fight.

                Joke.

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                  #68
                  i can imagine horn will dine off of that 'win' against pacquiao for a long while. I think that gets overlooked how big a robbery that was on here. If horn gets in the ring with thurman or spence he'll get his head taken off.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Vinnykin
                    An ATG that was 38 years old and had been declining for years, prime Pacquaio batters Horn to a pulp. He's a part-time boxer now and I don't give Horn much credit going life and death with an over-the-hill Manny who is a midget at the weight and who had lost his speed and power.

                    Randall Bailey? lol. Guy was over 40.

                    I'm seeing a pattern here. The guy is fighting old, past-it fighters in his hometown and getting way too much credit. Jeff Horn is tough and big at the weight but he has fought no one in their prime or even close to their prime.
                    Excuses.

                    Manny was fresh off a DOMINANT win over a prime, fresh Jessie Vargas. It's not like he got handled by the Hornet, it was a close decision and Manny fought hard for 5 rounds. But "no matter how...you...cut it, slice it or weigh it, he LOST to Jeff "The Hornet" Horn." By getting bullied around the ring like a B.

                    And Randall Bailey was STILL one of the hardest punchers in the game when he fought Horn. More knockouts than Manny. Able to drop Horn with just one of those right hands. The man was still a threat, but Horn is tougher than he's getting credit for.

                    That's what got ya'll in trouble the first time sleeping on the dude when I specifically warned everyone Manny was going to lose. Not because of his age, but because people were overlooking Horn.


                    Originally posted by DramaShow
                    If horn gets in the ring with thurman or spence he'll get his head taken off.
                    Keith Thurman, the guy that went the distance with Bundu? The guy that almost lost to Danny "Haymaker" Garcia?

                    Don't get me wrong, I think Thurman is a much more intelligent fighter than Horn, but Thurman can't seem to catch a break against bullies in the ring. And nobody is a better bully in the ring than Jeff "The Hornet" Horn. Especially if he goes to the body on Thurman which we know is a weakness.

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                      #70
                      As a match up, Horn vs Corcoran will be a cracking fight to watch and i'm all for it.

                      Corcoran has a very fan friendly come forward throw lots of punches style and his one loss was to a World Class Light Middle Liam Williams whose a much better fighter then Horn could ever be so i wouldn't write off Gary in this fight.

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