Comments Thread For: Kelly Pavlik: Today's Middleweights Aren't as Big as in My Era

[aboutfkntime]

Hahahaaa are you having a mental break down lol
You reta rded hypocrite you cant
Answer a simple question (you have no reasoning it's either low IQ or your just a phycho) would you turn down cotto or canelo to fight ward for less? it's really not hard.look I'll go first. no I wouldn't. See that was easy.
wasn't it during the super six that Ward was planning on going to heavyweight and he was still calling AJ and bellew out before he retired at 33. why are u giving him a pass for that

you got hoodwinked, you sucker !!

so now you cry to me

[peakbay]

****head..... he turned down cotto and canelo AND Ward

to fight Dominic Wade and Kell Brook

he did not make ANY of those fights

here is Bull****kin frustratedly asking who will fight him at 154..... immediately after refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto/Canelo LMAO





so yea, that excited little tirade was a complete waste of time, huh?

Definitely low IQ (turned down cotto and Canelo. never made those fights hahahaaa he just fought canelo. never go full ret ard)
Your obsessed with ggg so know exactly how and why those fights happened. ducked cotto is one of the most ret arded things I've read on this site and that's saying something.
Your the only one who's getting excited. just look at your previous post lol

[peakbay]

you got hoodwinked, you sucker !!

so now you cry to me

Stop trying to save face ret ard

[aboutfkntime]

Stop trying to save face ret ard

it looked like bullshht.....
it sounded like bullshht.....
it even smelt like bullshht.....

and guess what... it WAS bullshht, you muppet

YOU got played, sucka.... so, who is here trying to save face?




BEFORE shht got real :

2014 November
“We’ve always said that if there is a compelling fight, Gennady would move up or down..... if it’s Canelo, then I’m sure that we could work out a catchweight if he wanted to work out a catchweight and if it’s in his best interest......

“There wouldn’t be any issues for us to come down to fight Canelo. There would still be a title on the line for Gennady because he would be fighting under 160, so he would be able to defend the titles at 156 or whatever you have the weight be. But Gennady would be willing to come down in weight to fight Canelo. I wouldn’t say it would be at 154 but certainly, given that Canelo fought his last fight at 155, then you could say that Gennady would certainly be willing to come down in weight to make the Canelo fight.”
https://www.ring tv.com/367331-promo...anelo-alvarez/




AFTER shht got real:

2015 October
Cotto - 160 or no fight.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-rejects-idea-catch-weight-cotto-canelo--97113

2015 October
Canelo - 160 or no fight.....

http://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/6516/20151019/gennady-golovkin-next-fight-ggg-says-no-to-catchweight-bout-against-canelo-alvarez-miguel-cotto.htm

despite the fact that, shht got real:

2016 August
Golovkin crawled up his own ass by insisting that he will fight anyone at 154..... AFTER refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto/Canelo






YOU got played, sucka !! LMAO

[aboutfkntime]

NOBODY is hating, b1tches !!

Golovkin said one thing.... did another.... and then denied it

HELLUVA fighter..... but, you got played..... don't blame me

[The D3vil]

I did not respond to that because it was irrelevant

that is a totally different situation

listen, forget about a fighter making an off-handed comment when prompted by a reporter

EVERY fighter will insist that they would win

I know you can see that is totally different

EVERY..... SINGLE..... MEMBER..... of Team Golovkin, ran that "anyone from 154-168" spiel for FIVE YEARS..... it was a tactical, concerted, marketing/PR ploy..... not an off-handed comment to a question by a reporter

look.....

2012
Golovkin is willing to fight any man from 154 to 168.....

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/dec/01/sports/la-sp-sn-boxing-golovkin-20121201

2013
Golovkin Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154.....

http://thaboxingvoice.com/golovkin-aims-high-and-low-would-fight-ward-at-168-and-canelo-at-154/15398?var=no

2014
nobody at 154 or 160 could go twelve rounds.....

http://www.latinpost.com/articles/26227/20141120/boxing-news-2014-gennady-golovkin-wants-showdown-with-miguel-cotto.htm

2015
GGG says ''154 - 168 is easy''.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgoinrsIWww

2016
Nobody From 154-168 Goes Twelve With GGG.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-coach-nobody-from-154-168-goes-twelve-with-ggg--105365

here is Golovkin stating that he is willing to fight anyone at 154.....

problem is, he had just refused to negotiate on weight with Cotto/Canelo LMAO




come on, that 154-168 line is a worn-out scam

I never said Team Golovkin didn't say that they'd beat anybody from 154-168, I said, that I really didn't care.

I don't care what athletes say 90% of the time because it's irrelevant. They're all delusional and think they're better than they really are.

As long as GGG fought the people in his division that he was supposed to, without ducking them, why would I care if he didn't fight a guy who's in a whole nother division?

Like I said, Marvin Hagler & Carlos Monzon didn't have to fight outside of their division to impress me. They just had to fight the guys they were supposed to and beat them.

That is what GGG did.

[aboutfkntime]

I never said Team Golovkin didn't say that they'd beat anybody from 154-168, I said, that I really didn't care.

I don't care what athletes say 90% of the time because it's irrelevant. They're all delusional and think they're better than they really are.

As long as GGG fought the people in his division that he was supposed to, without ducking them, why would I care if he didn't fight a guy who's in a whole nother division?

fair call

you did not care

but, I did care

which is also a fair call

in relation to those promises, I find Golovkin's achievements to be..... average

as-in..... good, but not great

Like I said, Marvin Hagler & Carlos Monzon didn't have to fight outside of their division to impress me. They just had to fight the guys they were supposed to and beat them.

That is what GGG did.

yep, but those guys beat GREAT fighters

a lot of that comes down to era

which is also..... good, but not great




most observers who heard all of that 154-168 talk, but who are now aware that talk was..... "exaggerated"..... no longer mention Hagler/Monzon

just saying

[peakbay]

fair call

you did not care

but, I did care

which is also a fair call

in relation to those promises, I find Golovkin's achievements to be..... average

as-in..... good, but not great





yep, but those guys beat GREAT fighters

a lot of that comes down to era

which is also..... good, but not great




most observers who heard all of that 154-168 talk, but who are now aware that talk was..... "exaggerated"..... no longer mention Hagler/Monzon

just saying

If u care so much why aren't you s**ting on ward for all the talking he's been doing ??
Because your a hypocrite


You know fine well (as did wards team) ggg was looking to fight cotto or canelo when ward made his comeback and decided to send ggg an offer so don't try and twist things. Why haven't you answered my question. what's wrong does your answer not fit your argument?
So if I turn pro go on a bum of the month tour knock your dumb azs out on the way (not that ward fought bums) then send ggg an offer and he turns me down can I s**t on about it every time I here his name

[peakbay]

it looked like bullshht.....
it sounded like bullshht.....
it even smelt like bullshht.....

and guess what... it WAS bullshht, you muppet

YOU got played, sucka.... so, who is here trying to save face?




BEFORE shht got real :

2014 November
“We’ve always said that if there is a compelling fight, Gennady would move up or down..... if it’s Canelo, then I’m sure that we could work out a catchweight if he wanted to work out a catchweight and if it’s in his best interest......

“There wouldn’t be any issues for us to come down to fight Canelo. There would still be a title on the line for Gennady because he would be fighting under 160, so he would be able to defend the titles at 156 or whatever you have the weight be. But Gennady would be willing to come down in weight to fight Canelo. I wouldn’t say it would be at 154 but certainly, given that Canelo fought his last fight at 155, then you could say that Gennady would certainly be willing to come down in weight to make the Canelo fight.”
https://www.ring tv.com/367331-promo...anelo-alvarez/




AFTER shht got real:

2015 October
Cotto - 160 or no fight.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-rejects-idea-catch-weight-cotto-canelo--97113

2015 October
Canelo - 160 or no fight.....

http://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/6516/20151019/gennady-golovkin-next-fight-ggg-says-no-to-catchweight-bout-against-canelo-alvarez-miguel-cotto.htm

despite the fact that, shht got real:

2016 August
Golovkin crawled up his own ass by insisting that he will fight anyone at 154..... AFTER refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto/Canelo






YOU got played, sucka !! LMAO

How did I get played. I couldn't give a f*** about the 154-168 stuff (same with ward going to HW )it's only the haters like you who bring it up.
We were talking about the timing of the ward offer which he sent knowing ggg had other plans, then ran straight to the press shouting look he turned me down, to get publicity. Knowing he could rely on suckers like yourself to buy into it.
Smoke and mirrors

[aboutfkntime]

If u care so much why aren't you s**ting on ward for all the talking he's been doing ??
Because your a hypocrite


You know fine well (as did wards team) ggg was looking to fight cotto or canelo when ward made his comeback and decided to send ggg an offer so don't try and twist things. Why haven't you answered my question. what's wrong does your answer not fit your argument?
So if I turn pro go on a bum of the month tour knock your dumb azs out on the way (not that ward fought bums) then send ggg an offer and he turns me down can I s**t on about it every time I here his name

" all the talking "..... ?

I laughed at that shht once, never heard it mentioned again

GTFOH clown, stop being dishonest..... I proved above that was a 5-6 year long marketing strategy..... not a silly off-handed comment

comparing those two situations is desperate, and totally dishonest

besides, you proved that you are an excuse-making muppet when you attempted to insinuate that Ward did not genuinely target that fight..... because he made TWO genuine attempts to make that fight in 2015