Comments Thread For: Loeffler: Golovkin Will Be Even More Persistent in Rematch

[aboutfkntime]

Let's not. Golovkin left his first promotional company because he couldn't get meaningful fights.

Golovkin may have said that..... but then he refused fights with current/ex-champs Mora, Lara, Cotto, Ward.....

so yea, what was your point again ?


look, the very best opponent for a guy who is attempting to establish himself on the world stage..... is a former champ who has clearly faded

FACT: there is no question about that, and boxing has always worked that way

so..... back in 2012/2013, when Tom Loeffler was giving a radio interview, he was asked about Sergio Mora..... which was a clear no-brainer.....

Mora was perfect, an ideal opponent.....

so, after Tom finished coughing up his wheaties long enough to stutter/stammer his way through more than HALF-A-DOZEN ridiculous excuses to kill any talk of that fight..... it was clearly obvious that Golovkin still had his training wheels on

FACT: just like with Pacquiao and the blood tests, we needed 1 genuine reason..... the only reason why both of those parties furnished half-a-dozen silly (childish) excuses..... is because they did not have 1 genuine reason

surprise surprise...... Golovkin passed, and fought someone worse

Mora is a mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against, he proved by stinking out the joint with Mosley..... even though Mora had faded, they did not need that fight.....

they did not want to risk looking bad, failing to put Mora away..... or, worse

so yea..... " well-managed "

Lara..... another mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against

Ward..... another mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against

" well-managed "


Q. why the fk did Mr " anyone from 154-168 " totally refuse to negotiate on weight with his best possible payday at that point in time, Miguel Cotto ?

that money and exposure was HUGE..... that is EXACTLY what Golovkin needed at that point, any other fighter would have cut off one of their fingers for that opportunity

A. because.....

1) all of that " 154-168 " talk, was utter bullshht

2) at catchweight, which Golovkin would be required to make, Cotto was knocking out the same fools he was knocking out

they did not want to take the risk

and you guys think he really wanted to fight Ward LMAO

[Tobi.G]

Golovkin may have said that..... but then he refused fights with current/ex-champs Mora, Lara, Cotto, Ward.....

so yea, what was your point again ?


look, the very best opponent for a guy who is attempting to establish himself on the world stage..... is a former champ who has clearly faded

FACT: there is no question about that, and boxing has always worked that way

so..... back in 2012/2013, when Tom Loeffler was giving a radio interview, he was asked about Sergio Mora..... which was a clear no-brainer.....

Mora was perfect, an ideal opponent.....

so, after Tom finished coughing up his wheaties long enough to stutter/stammer his way through more than HALF-A-DOZEN ridiculous excuses to kill any talk of that fight..... it was clearly obvious that Golovkin still had his training wheels on

FACT: just like with Pacquiao and the blood tests, we needed 1 genuine reason..... the only reason why both of those parties furnished half-a-dozen silly (childish) excuses..... is because they did not have 1 genuine reason

surprise surprise...... Golovkin passed, and fought someone worse

Mora is a mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against, he proved by stinking out the joint with Mosley..... even though Mora had faded, they did not need that fight.....

they did not want to risk looking bad, failing to put Mora away..... or, worse

so yea..... " well-managed "

Lara..... another mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against

Ward..... another mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against

" well-managed "


Q. why the fk did Mr " anyone from 154-168 " totally refuse to negotiate on weight with his best possible payday at that point in time, Miguel Cotto ?

that money and exposure was HUGE..... that is EXACTLY what Golovkin needed at that point, any other fighter would have cut off one of their fingers for that opportunity

A. because.....

1) all of that " 154-168 " talk, was utter bullshht

2) at catchweight, which Golovkin would be required to make, Cotto was knocking out the same fools he was knocking out

they did not want to take the risk

and you guys think he really wanted to fight Ward LMAO

Come on lets be real, Mora has never been more than a better yournrey-man. Nuff said. At least he has been one of the better boxers of the world, which he can be proud of.

[aboutfkntime]

Come on lets be real, Mora has never been more than a better yournrey-man. Nuff said. At least he has been one of the better boxers of the world, which he can be proud of.

1) you just described MOST of Golovkin's opponents

2) Golovkin turned down Mora, to fight someone WORSE

3) there was absolutely no reason whatsoever why that fight should not happen

try again

[yankees7448]

2) Golovkin turned down Mora, to fight someone WORSE

Are you still on this ducking Sergio Mora bull*****. Mora doesn't scare anyone. Maybe Adama had less boxing ability than Mora but he had a lot more power. That's a big deal because Mora, for all his boxing ability and tricky style, consistently allows himself to get drawn into brawls. I've watched a ton of this guys fights. He's got two modes. Stink up the joint or reenact Gatti/Ward. Neither of those would have worked out against GGG considering Mora's utter lack of punching power.

3) there was absolutely no reason whatsoever why that fight should not happen

Mora vs. GGG would have been no different than GGG/Monroe except it would be less meaningful and competitive. In the three years prior to the date you consider GGG ducked Mora had a killer record of 3-2 with his big win coming against Proska and 2 losses to Certified First ballot Hall of Famer Brian Vera. During that same period, Adama went 4-1 with his biggest win coming against former champion Roman Karamzin and his loss coming to Daniel Geale. So he had a better recent record against better competition.

I know you hate GGG but come on dude. I've proven you wrong on Andre Ward and Erislandy Lara but I could see why someone would demand GGG fight those guys. But Mora? Sergio fuucking Mora. Mora didn't have a chance then and wouldn't have a chance now even against an aging GGG.

[yankees7448]

And what would a victory over Mora would have done to GGG's resume anyway. Daniel Jacobs has 2 wins over Mora. Does anyone give a *****.

Complaining about GGG not fighting Mora is like looking at this picture and saying "OMG look at that mole. Bleh".

[PsychoPat]

For it to be a middleweight title fight the limit has to be 160lb.

*** good point. But for sure I think ggg's struggled with 160 since the Wade fight would be interested to see a 164 version of trip

[aboutfkntime]

this is how that lie starts.....

Are you still on this ducking Sergio Mora bull*****.

and this is how it ends.....

And what would a victory over Mora would have done to GGG's resume anyway.

you know that your origninal line was bullshht

so, you added in the filler


FACT: the very best opponent for a guy who is attempting to establish himself on the world stage..... is a former champ who has clearly faded..... boxing has always worked that way

FACT: Tom Loeffler's HALF-A-DOZEN childish excuses to avoid that fight, were absurd..... they made no sense at all..... and there is only one reason why you furnish a bunch of childish excuses rather than 1 genuine reason

FACT: they rejected Mora, then fought someone WORSE..... so your excuses are bullshht


you are just another excuse-making Golovkin-fluffer, who dutifully decided to make his rounds

beat it kid..... FACTS > excuses

[aboutfkntime]

stop making the same unnecessary, inaccurate, childish, excuses..... that Loeffler originally made when he killed any talk of that fight LMAO


you excuse-making lamers would have an argument if not for the fact that Golovkin avoided a number of mover/spoilers..... it's not like Mora was the only one, Golovkin did not make any of those fights..... coincidence?..... yea right

FACT: just like with Pacquiao and the blood tests, we needed 1 genuine reason..... the only reason why both of those parties furnished half-a-dozen silly (childish) excuses..... is because they did not have 1 genuine reason

surprise surprise...... Golovkin passed, and fought someone worse

Mora is a mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against, he proved by stinking out the joint with Mosley..... even though Mora had faded, they did not need that fight.....

they did not want to risk looking bad, failing to put Mora away..... or, worse

so yea..... " well-managed "

Lara..... another mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against

Ward..... another mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against

" well-managed "


Q. why the fk did Mr " anyone from 154-168 " totally refuse to negotiate on weight with his best possible payday at that point in time, Miguel Cotto ?

that money and exposure was HUGE..... that is EXACTLY what Golovkin needed at that point, any other fighter would have cut off one of their fingers for that opportunity

A. because.....

1) all of that " 154-168 " talk, was utter bullshht

2) at catchweight, which Golovkin would be required to make, Cotto was knocking out the same fools he was knocking out

they did not want to take the risk

and you guys think he really wanted to fight Ward LMAO

[yankees7448]

this is how that lie starts.....



and this is how it ends.....

you know that your origninal line was bullshht

so, you added in the filler

FACT: the very best opponent for a guy who is attempting to establish himself on the world stage..... is a former champ who has clearly faded..... boxing has always worked that way


FACT: they rejected Mora, then fought someone WORSE..... so your excuses are bullshht


beat it kid..... FACTS > excuses

So let me get this straight. You're not saying GGG ducked Mora because you thought Mora could beat him or make him look ugly. You're saying he ducked Mora because in this instance he chose not beat up a faded former champion while he himself was on his way up. Are you kidding me? Is this how far you are going with your hatred. Its not enough to accuse GGG of ducking guys who may have actually had a chance against him but you're accusing him of ducking guys you didn't think had a chance anyway just because doing so would have been the conventional move.

[aboutfkntime]

So let me get this straight. You're not saying GGG ducked Mora because you thought Mora could beat him or make him look ugly. You're saying he ducked Mora because in this instance he chose not beat up a faded former champion while he himself was on his way up. Are you kidding me? Is this how far you are going with your hatred. Its not enough to accuse GGG of ducking guys who may have actually had a chance against him but you're accusing him of ducking guys you didn't think had a chance anyway just because doing so would have been the conventional move.

I said no such thing

that is just your spin, as usual

I said this.....

1) boxing is all about match-making.....
2) match-making is all about styles.....
3) styles make fights.....
4) you need to get it through your thick little fanboy head, that Team Bullshht are making the exact same risk/reward decisions as everybody else.....

It is embarrassingly ****** of you to think otherwise

Mora is a mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against, he proved that when he stunk out the joint with Mosley..... even though Mora had faded, they did not want to take the risk at that point in time.....

and Loeffler stuttering and stammering his way through half-a-dozen silly excuses proved that

they simply did not need that fight..... the only positive was a potential showcase against a name opponent..... but it is all about risk/reward.... and they simply did not want to risk looking bad, failing to put Mora away..... or, worse

there were MUCH easier ways for Golovkin to rack up the KO's that you casuals simply adore..... so, they took them

smarten up

oh, and I also said they made the exact same decision with Lara/Ward..... for the exact same reason

those fights were unnecessary/risky, and there were easier ways to make a dollar getting surefire KO's