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  • oscar9992
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    #61
    Good for him. Also needs to be more calmer & smarter in a rematch.

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    • TonyGe
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      #62
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      he was painted as a stone cold killer who could beat anyone from 154-168





      oh, I did.....

      what I saw was a very good middleweight with limitations, who was being very well managed/matched

      your turn
      He's fought all the credible fighters in his division and beat them. That's not carefull match making. As far as being well managed I think he's been poorly managed for the first part of his career.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Robi13
        He needs to be more accurate not more persistent...
        haha yea. It seems that as long as you're coming forward, regardless of punches landed, Lederman, Lampley, Atlas, and the casual fan will score rounds for you. If Sweet Pea was in his prime today, it would be damn near impossible for him to win a fight according the fans scoring

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        • buddyr
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          #64
          Originally posted by TonyGe
          He's fought all the credible fighters in his division and beat them. That's not carefull match making. As far as being well managed I think he's been poorly managed for the first part of his career.
          he didn't start fighting competition until he was in his mid 30s. That's no one's fault but his own

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          • buddyr
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            #65
            Originally posted by ggg_kz
            And whose debut in the US was contracted to be Pirog but Dmitriy got injured. Stop with this careful matchmaking bs. It's easy to criticise him now why at 35 yo he doesn't destroy everyone like a killer machine. Duh
            is it a coincidence that once he stepped it up on competition, he immediately started to look like **** and has looked like **** the past 3 fights? Or are we gonna use the "old" excuse. Remember, he was supposed to blast Canelo out in 3 rounds or less according to Ledderman and most people. So as the fight went on, they had to sell the narrative that Canelo was getting the hell beat out of him, even when Triple**** was missing. So the people are watching a fight with their own eyes, seeing Triple**** missing punches but believing what's being told to them

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            • buddyr
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              #66
              Originally posted by TonyGe
              Was he. I predicted a knockout of Jacobs but I also said he would more impressive if he won a decision. Most people that picked G to win predicted a KO. The thought was G is primarily a puncher. Right but wrong. He has boxing skills to get him out of trouble (so far) if his power fails. Canelo and Jacobs were supposed to "light Golovkin up like a Christmas Tree" according to his detractors. That didn't happen. Canelo spent the majority of the fight in a defensive posture. Being a defensive fighter doesn't mean retreating to the ropes and getting outlanded there. That's what happened. It doesn't mean retreating because you have to. If you want to see an example of defensive fighters that use their defense to provide opportunities to land punches look at Sweet Pea Whittiker or Willie Pep. Those guys were defensive minded to achieve a purpose. Canelo simply ran out of ideas. His defense was predictable and didn't vary. Jacobs and Canelo were outboxed. I think it's a commendable achievement when a fighter's primary weapon doesn't do it for him and he has the boxing skills to make up for it.
              When a so called killer can't knock out a fighter that was dropped by the feather fisted Sergio Mora, you have to question how great his power really is. Or was it that he was fighting bums?

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              • TonyGe
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                #67
                Originally posted by buddyr
                haha yea. It seems that as long as you're coming forward, regardless of punches landed, Lederman, Lampley, Atlas, and the casual fan will score rounds for you. If Sweet Pea was in his prime today, it would be damn near impossible for him to win a fight according the fans scoring
                That's nonsense. Sweet Pea moved to set up his attack as opposed to Canelo that moves because he has stamina issues and low ring IQ.

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                • TonyGe
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by buddyr
                  When a so called killer can't knock out a fighter that was dropped by the feather fisted Sergio Mora, you have to question how great his power really is. Or was it that he was fighting bums?
                  Look you throw around the term bum to suit you arguement. Jacobs isn't a bum. He came to win against Golovkin not just to show up for a payday. It didn't work out but he isn't a bum. You owe him an apology..

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by buddyr
                    When a so called killer can't knock out a fighter that was dropped by the feather fisted Sergio Mora, you have to question how great his power really is. Or was it that he was fighting bums?
                    It was a flash knockdown. When ever I hear this silly argument I can't help but think the guy talking is a noob. Jacobs had hurt Mora and was in destroy mode. He got caught with a good punch while being reckless. He got up and continued his pursuit of Mora. He was aggressive right after being dropped.

                    It happens sometimes to fighters.

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                    • buddyr
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez
                      It was a flash knockdown. When ever I hear this silly argument I can't help but think the guy talking is a noob. Jacobs had hurt Mora and was in destroy mode. He got caught with a good punch while being reckless. He got up and continued his pursuit of Mora. He was aggressive right after being dropped.

                      It happens sometimes to fighters.
                      I saw the fight live. Bottom line, Mora dropped Jocobs and damn near everyone, including me, picked Triple****t to destroy Jacobs and it didn't happen.

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