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  • #61
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
    that is how amateur boxing is supposed to work

    but yea, definitely not in the pro's
    Even in amateur boxing punches landed supercededes other scoring criteria. It's only recently they abandoned the push button computor scoring method they used for years in which fights were won and lost on the basis of clean punches landed, and nothing else.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by bronx7 View Post
      Landed 50 more punches total. Out jabbed Canella silly silly . Canella fought 30 seconds a round the rest was on his bike mostly backwards. GGG won 8/4
      Yes, you have been verified as actually having watched the fight.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by kafkod View Post
        Even in amateur boxing punches landed supercededes other scoring criteria. It's only recently they abandoned the push button computor scoring method they used for years in which fights were won and lost on the basis of clean punches landed, and nothing else.

        fights were won and lost on the basis of how good the judges were at playing video games

        there is sooooo much wrong with that approach, but the most relevant objection is that the pro game is nothing like amateur boxing

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        • #64
          this is the hurt game

          am, to pro..... is like comparing the 100m to a marathon

          you need a completely different approach because it is a completely different game

          old-school judges likely only see clean, MEANINGFUL, punches

          they may not even acknowledge a lot of the other stuff

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          • #65
            Borat: "Nice"

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            • #66
              Originally posted by moochi View Post
              Where are the articles where they've asked Kazakhi ppl on their thoughts?
              Borat: "Nice!!!"

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              • #67
                Originally posted by larryxxx. View Post
                People need to realize he has been fighting sub par fighters...Once the level rises the flaws a fighter has are exposed...and then you have to also add that styles make fights!!! GGG has issues with movement..same thing when Manny started facing fighters who moved more..Its easier to ko fighters who stand right in front of you and neglect defense
                Dude, fighting better competition doesn't make automatically slower.

                He's 35, not 28, srsly.

                Originally posted by Floyd's Mask View Post
                What’s funnier is that Nelo wasn’t the favorite to win, the professional that started at Welterweight, yet GGG saves face hiding at 160 his whole career and bigger than Nelo in the ring
                So, I guess you think Hagler & Monzon were cowards hiding at 160 their entire careers too, huh?

                Originally posted by larryxxx. View Post
                Well at 36 Floyd was the lineal champ at 147,154 and still dominating while posters like you slammed him left and right..so why the excuses for GGG?? at over 40 Hopkins moved up 2 divisions and won titles at 175 and set records..yet ya;ll wanna set different standards for GGG..why??
                Floyd's generally considered one of the 10 or so greatest fighters of all-time. You can't expect that from 99% of fighters.

                For everyone else (outside of heavyweights & Hopkins) 35 is old.

                Originally posted by Clubber Pac View Post
                That's what happens when the media annoints you the next Mike Tyson, the expectation level rises.

                You can't coin the term big drama show, and then go 12 rounds in 2 consecutive fights while being touched up.

                GGG set a standard, he is failing to live up to it, I mean, he could not even get a Jr Middleweight out of there within 12 rounds.

                GGG is a good fighter, not a great one, he is a product of the weakest era of middleweight boxing mabye ever.

                GGG most likely will never fight someone in a higher weight class that is a danger to him, which is a shame, but unlike Mayweather, Manny, Canelo, Cotto, Oscar, GGG does not want to be great, not really.
                Dude, Mike Tyson was in his prime from 19-24. By the time he was 30, he'd been beaten by Buster Douglass & Evander Holyfield twice.

                GGG's a 35 year old middlweight. I think it's pretty safe to say that his prime has passed by now.

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                • #68
                  ^^^^ gets it.

                  Its impressive when fighters can move weight divisions and still be competitive but far to much emphases is put on it. Anthony joshua isnt **** since he wont fight at light heavyweight, am i right? The "insert anyone" is hiding at X weight is a ****** argument. almost as ****** as "he didnt knock X out, therefore = ****ty fighter".

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                  • #69
                    expectations are just that; expectations. if GGG, or anyone for that matter just walked over everyone always it wouldnt be an interesting sport.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by TreJac View Post
                      It's ironic how a lot of people are criticizing GGG performance even after beating Canelo but what does that say about Canelo? Canelo is suppose to be the next p4p superstar who couldn't beat a guy who's on the decline! Canelo is the biggest draw in boxing but far from a superstar! I think Canelo is a good fighter but I don't think he'll ever be the p4p best because I see at least 5-8 fighters who are much better than Canelo.
                      Canelo will never be near the top of the p4p list because he just is not talented enough. He has solid skills but not exceptional, and is cursed with lead feet, short stocky frame, and a mediocre gas tank.

                      his physique and height/reach is more fitting of an aggressive jcc/duran type fighter, but he isn't that type of fighter stylewise.

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