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  • #11
    Originally posted by The Hammer View Post
    I agree.

    Usyk and Briedis are at least close to the top 10 now, perhaps should be around 8 to 10.
    Briedis is nowhere near the top 10.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by yammy25 View Post
      in no particular order ...
      Crawford
      Loma
      Rigo
      GGG
      Canelo
      Garcia.... There's no room in there for any of the cruiserweights tbh
      Lets compare speculating that Usyk wins.

      Usyk - Gassiev, Briedis, Glowacki, Huck, Mchunu, Hunter (4 Champions, Undisputed Champion in 15 fights)

      Canelo - Lara*, Cotto, Trout*, Smith, Angulo, Chavez, Mosley, Kirkland

      Rigo - Donaire, Agbeko, Ramos, Marroquin, Cordoba

      Crawford - Postol, Indongo, Gamboa, Beltran, Burns

      Garcia - Matthysse, Peterson, Khan, Guerrero, Judah

      After Canelo you could argue Usyk would have an edge in resume over the rest. Add to that becoming undisputed in 15 fights and owning one of the strongest divisions your analysis seems rather off.

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      • #13
        ^Surely he's talking about Mikey Garcia, not Danny?

        Originally posted by yammy25 View Post
        in no particular order ...
        Crawford
        Loma
        Rigo
        GGG
        Canelo
        Garcia.... There's no room in there for any of the cruiserweights tbh
        I rate all of those very highly. But in the case of Rigo, Loma and Garcia - amazing boxers no doubt - but who have they beaten of real, top quality? I know it's not their fault that their divisions aren't stacked. But to me, Usyk and Briedis' wins are already better. I just think cruiserweight is more stacked.

        At least until Mikey and Loma fight each other, which would be an awesome fight.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by BoxingFan85 View Post
          Usyk wins it in my imo and if he does he gets in top 7 imo..
          If anybody else wins then he makes the 7-10 range..

          Usyk is in my top 10 p4p already..
          This. Usyk is top 8 already, the guy is infinitely more skilled than the like of Santa Cruz and Kovalev.

          A Breidis win in a shut out absolutely elevates him into top five. Breidis has shown he's knocking on the door and is the top guy at cryiser behind Usyk with his body of work over his career. Gassiev was very uninspiring against a very crude and one dimensionsl Lebedev.

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          • #15
            Usyk is already top 5. When he wins he should be #1. I don't know how people can watch him and not see his skills would translate to any division. Personally I have him #2 right behind Crawford.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by keith_head View Post
              ^Surely he's talking about Mikey Garcia, not Danny?



              I rate all of those very highly. But in the case of Rigo, Loma and Garcia - amazing boxers no doubt - but who have they beaten of real, top quality? I know it's not their fault that their divisions aren't stacked. But to me, Usyk and Briedis' wins are already better. I just think cruiserweight is more stacked.

              At least until Mikey and Loma fight each other, which would be an awesome fight.
              Cruiser is stacked, heavyweight has literally three decent boxers, two of those I'm not sure I'd call boxers rather fighters in Wilder and Parker, Joshua has no challengers and will suffer the consequence of not having a worthy challenge resulting in his ability to crack the top pound for pound listings. Joshua really needs Tyson Fury back and in shape fie recognition if he's ever to establish himself as a true champ with Wilder and Parker held in such low regard.

              Cruiser is where it's at right now.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Mikhnienko View Post
                Lets compare speculating that Usyk wins.

                Usyk - Gassiev, Briedis, Glowacki, Huck, Mchunu, Hunter (4 Champions, Undisputed Champion in 15 fights)

                Canelo - Lara*, Cotto, Trout*, Smith, Angulo, Chavez, Mosley, Kirkland

                Rigo - Donaire, Agbeko, Ramos, Marroquin, Cordoba

                Crawford - Postol, Indongo, Gamboa, Beltran, Burns

                Garcia - Matthysse, Peterson, Khan, Guerrero, Judah

                After Canelo you could argue Usyk would have an edge in resume over the rest. Add to that becoming undisputed in 15 fights and owning one of the strongest divisions your analysis seems rather off.
                For me Lomachenko is ahead of Usyk and with wins over Briedis, Dorticos/Gassiev/Diablo fails to elevate him higher, depending of course how Loma fairs versus Rigo.

                Canelo I didn't feel worthy of top ten recognition until he fought Golovkin and proved himself the same level, those two are top 9 and 10 with Golovkin having the slight edge in seventh, poor exceptionally poor by comparison to guys like Rigo, Usyk, Loma, Crawford, I even have Thurman and Spence above them. How Golovkin is no.1 now Ward has retired in some quarters on the back of his last two fights is laughable.

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                • #18
                  Definitely! Anywhere in top 3 is strong possibility as well. Whether people like it or not Cruiserweight division is one of the most, if not the most, stacked division in boxing.
                  Skill wise Usyk should already be up there.

                  If the winner of a potential Dorticos/Gassiev fight wins impressively they may have a case for the top 10.
                  Then the final should be a showdown between two top 10 guys.

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                  • #19
                    I'd say #1 since there's no clear #1 right now.

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                    • #20
                      first time seeing Breidis fight and I am not impressed

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