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The winner of the Cruiserweight WBSS is P4P top 5. Discuss.

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  • #31
    Somewhere in there, yes.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
      Usyk is already top 5. When he wins he should be #1. I don't know how people can watch him and not see his skills would translate to any division. Personally I have him #2 right behind Crawford.
      Agreed. You know your boxing.

      When I watch Usyk, people like GGG and Canelo look to me like they are semi-skilled, a bit primitive.

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      • #33
        lol, calm down dude it's just a little tournament

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        • #34
          Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post
          Agreed. You know your boxing.

          When I watch Usyk, people like GGG and Canelo look to me like they are semi-skilled, a bit primitive.
          He's not one demensional. Speed, footwork, athleticism, IQ, power. He's like if you built a boxer on Fight Night Champions. Dude moves like a lightweight. He's a top 3 heavyweight right now. A fight with Wilder or AJ would be 50/50 and I would pick Usyk in both of those fights.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by ScottWeiland View Post
            For me Lomachenko is ahead of Usyk and with wins over Briedis, Dorticos/Gassiev/Diablo fails to elevate him higher, depending of course how Loma fairs versus Rigo.

            Canelo I didn't feel worthy of top ten recognition until he fought Golovkin and proved himself the same level, those two are top 9 and 10 with Golovkin having the slight edge in seventh, poor exceptionally poor by comparison to guys like Rigo, Usyk, Loma, Crawford, I even have Thurman and Spence above them. How Golovkin is no.1 now Ward has retired in some quarters on the back of his last two fights is laughable.
            Good point. I don't think he's top 10 P4P.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
              He's not one demensional. Speed, footwork, athleticism, IQ, power. He's like if you built a boxer on Fight Night Champions. Dude moves like a lightweight. He's a top 3 heavyweight right now. A fight with Wilder or AJ would be 50/50 and I would pick Usyk in both of those fights.
              So would I.

              I think he's draining himself at cruiser. That might be the reason he gasses at times.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc_p-pqAc04
              Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 09-30-2017, 10:07 PM.

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              • #37
                usyk is favorite but gassiev has 1 KO power to end any1

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by DramaShow View Post
                  should be p4p number 1 or 2. ward was p4p top 2 (number1 when mayweather retired) for winning the super middle tournament so why shouldnt the winner of this one be too? i think usyk will win it and to me he passes the eye test too so i dont see why people shouldnt have him rated very highly if he wins it, unless theres an agenda at play.
                  This I totally agree with. I've actually thought about this before the OP even created this thread. If Usyk wins the cruiserweight tournament and if Lomachenko beats Guillermo Rigondeaux, both should be (in my opinion) number 1 and 2 respectively. Who is number 1 and 2 between both is arguable. However, those are 2 of the best current accomplishments in boxing.

                  The cruiserweight division is in my opinion, the most stacked and most competitive division in boxing today. It might even be the most global (boxers competing from most countries). To me, it's similar to the 1970's heavyweight division. The current heavyweight division is pretty similar to the 1970's 'heavyweight' era.

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                  • #39
                    Usyk is like the cruiserweight's version of Lomachenko. Those who don't have him in their top 10 P4P list, I'd like to know why. What exactly is the reason? The 'poor / weak division' can't be used as an excuse since the cruiserweight division is currently one of, if not the most stacked and competitive weight divisions. It has boxers from more countries competing than most of the other weight divisions.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post
                      Smart post. Green sent.

                      I don't know man. After looking at your post, I'd put Usyk above all of them. He's already on my list based on skill alone. If he wins this whole tournament, he's the best in boxing, bar none.

                      The guy is basically a heavyweight moving like a lightweight, and has special effects. He needs to work on his stamina and, more importantly, stop admiring his own work too much until the conclusion of the bout.

                      I'm picking him to win this prize.

                      War Usyk!
                      Always important but i thought he showed excellent volume and stamina in the Huck fight. It was one of the more notable dynamics in the fight he was busy and relentless. Showed good stamina in the Hunter and Glowacki fights too that hasn't been an issue for him.

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