Maybe Wilder's Opponents Know Something We Don't

[koolkc107]

Ortiz took some blood pressure meds FFS what dont you guys get. If he had no evidence of any prescripton it would be a whole different story. He has a legit doctor order to take what he took.

He didn't disclose them.

Given he had been caught before, and his purse was on the line, you'd think he would tell them if he is on medication.

Prescription or not, taking something with Hydroclorothiazide requires a TUE.

[SUBZER0ED]

Idk about all that, but clearly they don't wanna go in with Wilder unless they are above their normal level of non-PED'd up 100%.

It's starting to get ****** with these guys who would enhance Wilder's status with many fans if these fights happened and Wilder did defeat them falling out over ****** sh^t.

It kinda reminds me of when GGG kept getting into talks with guys or their people and things would fall apart at some point before the fight became official. Wilder is getting further along with his fights becoming official, but ultimately if the fight isn't happening then it's still hemming up your forward movement.

Whatever doe at this point with 2 respected guys pissing dirty they can angle Wilder into a GGG-like feared guy with mfers not being willing to fight him clean.

It remains to be seen, but I think there may be a big difference between Golovkin and Wilder. When Golovkin goes up against the top talent in his division, he has tough fights. If and when Wilder goes up against the top guys in his division, he will get KTFO.

[Eff Pandas]

It remains to be seen, but I think there may be a big difference between Golovkin and Wilder. When Golovkin goes up against the top talent in his division, he has tough fights. If and when Wilder goes up against the top guys in his division, he will get KTFO.

Some of you cats are so literally with everything I bet you get a confused look when someone tells you to go f#ck yourself.

I'm not making any comparisons to Wilder and GGG talent wise or in any other way except to say there potential opponents have been dropping the ball and that can be a angle to hype Wilder much like it was with GGG. From there it was on GGG to prove himself and Wilder to prove himself when his meaningful moment(s) comes.

And it's been hurting his ability to be more seriously thought of if he does beat more respected guys in the future. Plus I gotta figure it's hurting his income much like GGGs income was harmed for years if he does turn out to be more legit then he's shown us this far.

[RussB23]

He didn't disclose them.

Given he had been caught before, and his purse was on the line, you'd think he would tell them if he is on medication.

Prescription or not, taking something with Hydroclorothiazide requires a TUE.

Yes that was his problem, is that he didnt disclose. Maybe he just didnt know he had to because he has a prescription. It was doctors orders, he probably felt he didnt have to and that it didnt have anything banned in it.

To be honest thats all on him, but he does have a good reason behind taking what he took. They should honestly just work it out with the WBC and let the fight go on. I know ortiz has popped in the past but he really did take medication this time.

[koolkc107]

Yes that was his problem, is that he didnt disclose. Maybe he just didnt know he had to because he has a prescription. It was doctors orders, he probably felt he didnt have to and that it didnt have anything banned in it.

To be honest thats all on him, but he does have a good reason behind taking what he took. They should honestly just work it out with the WBC and let the fight go on. I know ortiz has popped in the past but he really did take medication this time.

Maybe you are right, but that kinda is secondary here.

You have a known cheat taking something that is known to cut weight AND mask serious PEDs.

Gonna be real hard to just say "oh well, honest mistake" if you are the WBC.

Give Wilder credit tho, he says he wants to fight anyway.

Guess he is tired of having to sue for his purses...

[SUBZER0ED]

Some of you cats are so literally with everything I bet you get a confused look when someone tells you to go f#ck yourself.

I'm not making any comparisons to Wilder and GGG talent wise or in any other way except to say there potential opponents have been dropping the ball and that can be a angle to hype Wilder much like it was with GGG. From there it was on GGG to prove himself and Wilder to prove himself when his meaningful moment(s) comes.

And it's been hurting his ability to be more seriously thought of if he does beat more respected guys in the future. Plus I gotta figure it's hurting his income much like GGGs income was harmed for years if he does turn out to be more legit then he's shown us this far.

How cliche.

[KingHippo]

This is the 3rd different guy that has been caught doing something he shouldn't with Wilder on his schedule.

Yeah, we criticize Deontay with windmill memes and take shots at his resume on the daily.

So why aren't these guys laughing too?

Why are they doing anything but making fun of him, going as far as risking hundreds of thousands of dollars or even millions just to get an edge against a guy that is supposed to be hype, a product of smoke and mirrors?

Once, yeah.

Twice, maybe.

This is the third different guy that felt what he had naturally wasn't enough.

What, if anything, does that say about Deontay?

He's more athletically gifted than half of these ****s. He may be wild, but wildeness + scary power + crazy stamina is a dangerous cocᶄtail for some of these textbook and somewhat over the hill boxers. No way Povetkin or Ortiz could feel confident going more than 8 against Wilder without any help.

[saintpat]

Well i doubt anyone would jeopardize their own payday for something like that. But what i don't get is how could this happen again with Ortiz himself! Surely his team would have informed the testing agency about anything he was taking for his BP or Diabetes.

That's like saying "I doubt Lance Armstrong would jeopardize the Tour de France for something like that."

By that logic, no professional athlete who has ever been caught was guilty because "surely they wouldn't do that."

They do it because they need PEDs to compete at that level. Pure and simply, it's an "I'm not good enough, I need an edge." It's also risk vs. reward. The risk of getting caught is worth the reward if they aren't and can cash in a payday for millions against Joshua down the road. And he's at least in his late 30s, so he needs an edge to have a chance to compete with Wilder.

I believe his last two fights, where he didn't look so good, and which came after he enrolled in VADA testing, he was clean. But vs. Jennings and whatnot, he was probably still dirty. He needs to be the Ortiz of Jennings to have a chance with Wilder or any other true world class heavyweight, and he saw the difference in that last fight.

Got a script to give him a cover story and then said, "Well, let's hope I don't get popped, gimme that stuff!"

[Eff Pandas]

How cliche.

I actually don't think it is. Lotsa cats will say A and B about some sh^t and some other mfer will say well C isn't true when nobody was talking about C except that mfer that brought up C lol.

[John Locke]

They're taking PEDs because they're cheats, not because they're fighting Wilder...