Maybe Wilder's Opponents Know Something We Don't

[Ray*]

Well i doubt anyone would jeopardize their own payday for something like that. But what i don't get is how could this happen again with Ortiz himself! Surely his team would have informed the testing agency about anything he was taking for his BP or Diabetes.

[Derranged]

Yep. It wasnt that they exclusively did this only when they were fighting wilder. For all we know They could've been set up so Wilder looks credible without fighting them. I aint seen wilder taking this Whyte fight now because he wil definitely pass the drug tests, who knows ?... not to throw shade at wilder but it is suspect

If in fact these three fighters were "set up", then there would have to be some damn good evidence in order for me to believe it.

[SplitSecond]

Because juice is part of their routine, doesnt matter if they were fight bums, and even more so vs a world class athlete, ortiz is too old to naturally compete.

[koolkc107]

It's because wilder has that right hand that's almost in all cases a fight ender. I'm not a huge fan of his style, but he has fast hands and a long reach which almost always = a big puncher.

I do like Wilder's story about his daughter. He's giving the fight game his all and he already knows he wants to get out soon... idk that legacy or any of that stuff concerns him at all as long as his child is taken care of.

He IS a fan friendly interview no doubt.

And, I don't buy the "Ortiz and Povetkin were already cheats" thing either.

If anything, that makes it worse.

If you been caught cheating before and are getting another chance to undergo testing to prove you are a clean fighter, wouldn't you be extra careful?

Take Shane Mosley.

He erased much of the blemish on him getting exposed as a cheat by undergoing and passing rigorous testing. His legacy is still largely intact as a result.

You get another chance, you don't blow it on something as ****** as not disclosing something you have to take every single day.

This is 3 guys that blew large sums of cash trying to get an edge on a guy that is regularly clowned on this and other forums for his lack of skill and resume.

Yet, guys either avoid him or get caught cheating when the do sign.

That's saying something...

[BWC]

That right hand is likely the heaviest shot in all of boxing, and every camp seems to know it.

The skills are still coming along (the inside fighting is better, and he makes far better use of his left hand and defensive range), but the dynamite is real.

The right hand is the touch of death and likely Ortiz wanted to improve the cardio artificially to keep the legs from wobbling when hit. Simple as that

[koolkc107]

[RussB23]

Ortiz took some blood pressure meds FFS what dont you guys get. If he had no evidence of any prescripton it would be a whole different story. He has a legit doctor order to take what he took.

[SUBZER0ED]

It says they know their fate !

The truth is exposed within a man when he knows his imminent doom is coming and coming real soon!

A very unpleasant feeling that unravels folks with high morals to change them for the worst underneath their character to reveal desperation is the key to survival!

Wilder is unofficially the most feared man in boxing!

Never would I have thought Ortiz would try something that ****** in his biggest fight and a chance to be the champion with his skills!

Wilder still wants to fight him but he has no choice just like against PEDvetkin!

These fools know the baptism is all in Wilder's right hand!

Nah, bro, Wilder jumped on a plane for Alabama before a decision was even made to postpone the Povetkin fight. They postponed and eventually cancelled because Wilder refused to fight him. Not that I blame him, but he could have chosen to fight if he wanted to.

[Eff Pandas]

Idk about all that, but clearly they don't wanna go in with Wilder unless they are above their normal level of non-PED'd up 100%.

It's starting to get ****** with these guys who would enhance Wilder's status with many fans if these fights happened and Wilder did defeat them falling out over ****** sh^t.

It kinda reminds me of when GGG kept getting into talks with guys or their people and things would fall apart at some point before the fight became official. Wilder is getting further along with his fights becoming official, but ultimately if the fight isn't happening then it's still hemming up your forward movement.

Whatever doe at this point with 2 respected guys pissing dirty they can angle Wilder into a GGG-like feared guy with mfers not being willing to fight him clean.

[Metho_4u]

Ortiz took some blood pressure meds FFS what dont you guys get. If he had no evidence of any prescripton it would be a whole different story. He has a legit doctor order to take what he took.

Because people want to know WHY a professional athlete, who's focus is largely around cardio (and cardio is what helps BP) would have such a condition that wasn't brought on by the use of PEDS, if it's a true medical condition because of some sort of hormone, vitamin, etc imbalance, deficiency, or something else...then fine. A previous cheat needs to be held to a higher standard imo. Especially if it's the biggest fight of his career. You don't agree?