Luis Ortiz Demands Apology From WBC As He Is "Legally Taking" Blood Pressure Meds

[McNulty]

It's not a crime. But he must report it to the WBC/VADA. There is a list of banned substances. This is on the list. His team was supposed to report it. He knows that.

Could it be possible he didn't know it? Like, what is SOP with VADA communicating with fighters?

If he can provide proof he has a blood pressure issue, I think an exemption is in order.

If this was Bam Bam Rios and he said he had a doctors note for Diuretics, sure --- scrutinize him. He been making some very questionable weight alterations throughout his career. But a HW who doesn't need to make weight, I dunno man. I think we need to learn more before hanging the dude out to dry.

Does this cat even speak English? I don;t know jack about this guy so forgive my ignorance in advance people.

[jaded]

Does this cat even speak English? I don;t know jack about this guy so forgive my ignorance in advance people.

That's actually a good point...I don't think he does. I seem to remember him always speaking through an interpreter.

[Rudiamonds]

Could it be possible he didn't know it? Like, what is SOP with VADA communicating with fighters?

If he can provide proof he has a blood pressure issue, I think an exemption is in order.

If this was Bam Bam Rios and he said he had a doctors note for Diuretics, sure --- scrutinize him. He been making some very questionable weight alterations throughout his career. But a HW who doesn't need to make weight, I dunno man. I think we need to learn more before hanging the dude out to dry.

Does this cat even speak English? I don;t know jack about this guy so forgive my ignorance in advance people.

No he doesn't speak a lick of English also did you know that this is his 2nd failed drug test

[Motorcity Cobra]

Could it be possible he didn't know it? Like, what is SOP with VADA communicating with fighters?

If he can provide proof he has a blood pressure issue, I think an exemption is in order.

If this was Bam Bam Rios and he said he had a doctors note for Diuretics, sure --- scrutinize him. He been making some very questionable weight alterations throughout his career. But a HW who doesn't need to make weight, I dunno man. I think we need to learn more before hanging the dude out to dry.

Does this cat even speak English? I don;t know jack about this guy so forgive my ignorance in advance people.

That's actually a good point...I don't think he does. I seem to remember him always speaking through an interpreter.

Here is the WBC clean boxing program rules and forms from the WBC website in Spanish

http://wbcboxing.com/WBCVADAESP/

You're given a form to fill out of medications/supplements you're currently taking. I'm 100% sure the WBC, based in Mexico, has those forms in Spanish

[McNulty]

No he doesn't speak a lick of English also did you know that this is his 2nd failed drug test

No I did not. Just Googled it, Nandrolone aka Deca which is a very long lasting oil based steroid. Only an idiot would take that in Boxing.

Here is the WBC clean boxing program rules and forms from the WBC website in Spanish

http://wbcboxing.com/WBCVADAESP/

You're given a form to fill out of medications/supplements you're currently taking. I'm 100% sure the WBC, based in Mexico, has those forms in Spanish

Thanks. Safe to say Ortiz is an idiot. Get caught dirty, you got to be proactive in the future for integrity's sake.

[jaded]

You're misunderstanding several fundamental facts (which isn't necessarily your fault as the media did a horrible job of accurately reporting the story).

#1 - NSAC wasn't notified because at the time, IVs, in any amount, for any reason, were 100% legal under NSAC rules. There was no reason to notify the NSAC about something allowed under their rules.

#2 - The purpose of a retroactive exemption is to allow the athlete's representatives ample time to properly present their case and to allow the agency ample time to consider their case.

OF COURSE it was filed after the fight. An athlete's lawyers are not going to rush a filing that if filed improperly or not adequately presenting his position could result in ruining the athlete's life.

Retroactive exemption exists so nobody has to decide anything in the heat of the moment. The athlete doesn't have to wait for medical treatment and they then have time after the fact to prove the treatment was legitimate.

But the key is to do everything with the knowledge of the agency and to not hide anything from the agency. USADA was aware of Floyd's IV because the USADA DCO was with Floyd the entire day and Floyd never left their sight. USADA was expecting the filing and ruled once they had it.

There was nothing unusual about any of this other than Hauser, who was being paid by HBO, writing a hit piece to purposely confuse the public about the proper protocols.

You're making this crap up...

This from NSAC executive director Bob Bennett...

“As far as USADA, I was extremely disappointed that I wasn't notified right away. When it comes to TUE, we are the sole agency that approves the administering of TUEs.

'USADA, nor any other anti-doping agency that does drug testing, doesn't have the authority to administer a TUE.'

“The bottom line is USADA didn't keep us informed, which is totally unacceptable and unprofessional.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/floyd-mayweather-received-injection-day-6419772

[Pac=Duran]

No he doesn't speak a lick of English also did you know that this is his 2nd failed drug test

Its either his 3rd or 4th I thought???!

[buddyr]

this is good news for Anthony Joshua and his fans. 1 less guy he has to deal with

[eco1]

Could it be possible he didn't know it? Like, what is SOP with VADA communicating with fighters?

If he can provide proof he has a blood pressure issue, I think an exemption is in order.

If this was Bam Bam Rios and he said he had a doctors note for Diuretics, sure --- scrutinize him. He been making some very questionable weight alterations throughout his career. But a HW who doesn't need to make weight, I dunno man. I think we need to learn more before hanging the dude out to dry.

Does this cat even speak English? I don;t know jack about this guy so forgive my ignorance in advance people.

this is a very good post and I think it should be done what mcnulty is saying.

Why not check it and find out once and for all wether this is Ortiz's fault or not.

It is very easy to find out!

[N/A]

You're making this crap up...

Making up which part? Because nothing you posted contradicted anything we said.

“As far as USADA, I was extremely disappointed that I wasn't notified right away. When it comes to TUE, we are the sole agency that approves the administering of TUEs.

NSAC is the sole agency that can grant an exemption to NSAC rules, but IV wasn't against NSAC rules and therefore no exemption was needed. Notice Bennett never claimed that Mayweather needed an NSAC exemption. He's using strong words that are ultimately meaningless. That's what you do when you're doing damage control when there is public outrage caused by a misleading article written by somebody literally on HBO's payroll.

'USADA, nor any other anti-doping agency that does drug testing, doesn't have the authority to administer a TUE.'

Does not have the authority to issue an exemption to NSAC rules. But obviously USADA has the authority to issue an exemption TO THEIR OWN RULE!!! Use your brain for a second. If Floyd had violated NSAC rules, and only NSAC can issue an exemption for NSAC rules (something we all agree on), why didn't NSAC sanction Floyd? After all, we're all in agreement that only NSAC can exempt NSAC policy and USADA made it clear they were not exempting NSAC policy, only USADA policy.

So your position doesn't make any sense. Because clearly USADA has the authority to issue an exemption for USADA. Nobody is claiming USADA has the authority to issue an exemption for NSAC. So if IV was illegal in Nevada, and USADA clearly couldn't exempt a Nevada rule, why did Nevada say Floyd didn't break the rules? Clearly it wasn't against the rules in Nevada.

You're just being fooled by Bennett by taking his outrage at face value without bothering to think about the actual meaning of the words he's saying.

“The bottom line is USADA didn't keep us informed, which is totally unacceptable and unprofessional.”

So he's unhappy that he was blindsided by the article from the person on HBO's payroll. So he issues a strongly worded (and meaningless) statement criticizing USADA so the public thinks the NSAC looks tough.

While distracting the public from the fact that IV was 100% legal in Nevada, something that was well known at the time and clearly stated by USADA and never refuted by NSAC.