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Why couldn't Canelo Alvarez beat Golovkin as convincingly as Pacquiao beat Margarito?

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  • #41
    Originally posted by BoxingTrav View Post
    Margarito's worse defeat was at the hands of Shane Mosley. Manny got a man that was already destroyed. Canelo did not have that same luxury when he fought GGG.

    The fight was Manny's fourth above 140 and performed well in those fights so how did Manny have no business fighting at that weight?
    Manny Pacquiao started his career at flyweight. The same division as Roman Gonzalez. Whilst Shane Mosley was a natural welterweight. Do you realize the difference in someone as small as Manny Pacquiao beating someone as big as Margarito, compared to someone as big as Shane Mosley beating someone closer to his own size as Margarito?

    Manny Pacquiao as someone who started his career at flyweight, beating Antonio Margarito is more impressive than Shane Mosley, who started his career at lightweight beating Antonio Margarito. Has Shane Mosley ever beaten an opponent who is over 4 or more weight divisions above his starting weight division? That's exactly what Pacman did by beating Margarito.

    he had no business fighting in that weight because no other boxer in history moved up that much and succeeded as much as Pacquiao did. The fact that he was at such a disadvantage and still overcame the odds, is a testament to his greatness and qualities. That doesn't mean he wasn't at a HUUUUUGE disadvantage.

    Manny Pacquiao also defeated Miguel Cotto far more convincingly than Canelo Alvarez did. Pacman dropped cotto multiples times and stopped him. That was a younger and a fresher Cotto that Pacman destroyed. By your argument, Canelo Alvarez should've beaten Cotto as convincingly as Pacman defeated Margarito since Canelo had the luxury of fighting a man (Miguel Cotto) who was already destroyed at the hands of Manny Pacquiao. So why couldn't Canelo Alvarez demolish Cotto as or more convincingly compared to Pacquiao? Do you now realize why that excuse doesn't work, when you claim Canelo didn't have the luxury of facing a destroyed man like how Pacman had the luxury of facing Margarito? Since Canelo had the luxury of facing Cotto, who was a destroyed man from the beating he took from Pacquiao but Canelo still went life and death with him.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Ganstaz003 View Post
      Tell that to those who are claiming Golovkin is at Margarito's level in boxing abilities.
      Why would you even entertain what "those clowns" are saying?

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
        Don't ever put Margarito and GG in the same sentence again mother****er.
        MarGGGarito.

        Mother Fucker XD

        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post


        Look at the amazing power, he was landing these kind of shots all night. That's 8 of his landed punches right there, amazing stuff.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Ganstaz003 View Post
          Manny Pacquiao started his career at flyweight. The same division as Roman Gonzalez. Whilst Shane Mosley was a natural welterweight. Do you realize the difference in someone as small as Manny Pacquiao beating someone as big as Margarito, compared to someone as big as Shane Mosley beating someone closer to his own size as Margarito?

          Manny Pacquiao as someone who started his career at flyweight, beating Antonio Margarito is more impressive than Shane Mosley, who started his career at lightweight beating Antonio Margarito. Has Shane Mosley ever beaten an opponent who is over 4 or more weight divisions above his starting weight division? That's exactly what Pacman did by beating Margarito.

          he had no business fighting in that weight because no other boxer in history moved up that much and succeeded as much as Pacquiao did. The fact that he was at such a disadvantage and still overcame the odds, is a testament to his greatness and qualities. That doesn't mean he wasn't at a HUUUUUGE disadvantage.

          Manny Pacquiao also defeated Miguel Cotto far more convincingly than Canelo Alvarez did. Pacman dropped cotto multiples times and stopped him. That was a younger and a fresher Cotto that Pacman destroyed. By your argument, Canelo Alvarez should've beaten Cotto as convincingly as Pacman defeated Margarito since Canelo had the luxury of fighting a man (Miguel Cotto) who was already destroyed at the hands of Manny Pacquiao. So why couldn't Canelo Alvarez demolish Cotto as or more convincingly compared to Pacquiao? Do you now realize why that excuse doesn't work, when you claim Canelo didn't have the luxury of facing a destroyed man like how Pacman had the luxury of facing Margarito? Since Canelo had the luxury of facing Cotto, who was a destroyed man from the beating he took from Pacquiao but Canelo still went life and death with him.
          Which is why him ducking drug testing for 3-5 years was a big deal lmfao...

          Pac chasing girls on "instagram". Ya...instagram LMFAO

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          • #45
            He won 7-5 ggg did do better than I thought tho

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Xi_ View Post
              Margo was a ****ing bum by the time Pacquiao got him in the ring.....he looked like a bag of **** in his past two fights including a ko loss.
              Pls don't say things like that. It makes pacFUCKS feel less important XD

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              • #47
                Because GGG isn't the bum Margarito was.

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                • #48
                  NSB Posters have this weird habit of trying to draw parallels between things that just don't need them.

                  Most of it is, if I bought an apple instead of an orange, then why is the sky blue?

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Ganstaz003 View Post
                    So you're admitting that Canelo Alvarez isn't that much more skilled than Golovkin? In other words, Golovkin is close or equal to Canelo in terms of skills?
                    I am not comparing them, simply saying they aren't the same person which is fact.

                    Of all the factors in what makes fights and their outcomes what they are, surely a totally different pair of men is high on the list.

                    The question of why didn't Canelo perform as good vs GGG as Pac did vs Margarito is strange to me. Different men, different styles, different dynamics etc etc...Hence my answer.

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                    • #50
                      Just showed Golovkin is really not that easy to hit. I kept waiting for those Canelo big moments. Unfortunately, they were few and far between. I kept asking myself, "Why can't he hit him? He's right there in front of him."

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