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  • #31
    Originally posted by Floyd's Mask View Post
    Well...

    Let’s say it’s 1.5mll

    Assume they’re all $80 HD buys (from the American continent)

    $120mil.

    60mil goes to GBP and K2

    Let’s say it was a 20% PPV for K2 (GGG)

    That’s 12mil

    Plus guaranteed purses +3 mil

    15mil to K2 (GGG).

    Same place where we started
    q.e.d.

    There's enough unknown information here (before even getting to how K2 and Golovkin split money) that assuming that Golovkin got more than the $15m flat offer from all of the pieces is a bit rich.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
      Except 2m = 160m so your 40m off to start before you get into the rest of your agenda driven made up figures.

      Fait to assume since the purse split was 63/37 that would be how some of the other splits would work out rather than use B.S figures.
      lol, on what planet would Golovkin walk away with a better split than what even Chavez Jr got?

      Golovkin getting north of 35% on the pot, again maybe doing 20% of the PPV business of Alvarez? gtfoh.

      Beyond that, it's been 10 days on from the event, and no one is even sideways joking about the event doing 2m homes, lol.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
        Where's the official 1.6M? HBO are saying it's around 2m last I heard. No idea what the August 26th fight drew.
        Where has HBO said anything about how Alvarez-Golovkin did? The source would be greatly appreciated.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
          q.e.d.

          There's enough unknown information here (before even getting to how K2 and Golovkin split money) that assuming that Golovkin got more than the $15m flat offer from all of the pieces is a bit rich.
          definitely, at least K2 were smart to submit to GBP negotiations anyways.

          I say Abel gets his 10%
          Herman Brother(s) 10%
          Loeffler 15%

          65% to GGG. pays stateside an Kazakh taxes...

          at least GGG's legacy, Olympic exp., all paid off which is good. but still, Maxi and GGG Gloveking skype each other and jump on bananas on Fridays

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          • #35
            Originally posted by TheCell8 View Post
            Or course not, only the naturally lobotomized thought he should have. He likely made between $20-30M for this fight. Hes going to make that amouny again in the rematch, if not more.
            Based on what, though?

            Golden Boy didn't split the take with K2 50/50, and had no rational reason to do so; heck, I doubt that K2 even got 35% as their split (and that's with knowing nothing about how K2 and Golovkin split money).

            Even if you assume 2m PPV homes all spending the $80 (both I clearly am on record as thinking are nonsense), you're talking about maybe $25m getting to K2 after everyone gets their piece, with maybe another $5m coming as K2's share of the live event. K2 and Golovkin split the money 40/60, and with the rosiest assumptions Golovkin gets to $18m on the fight (plus personal sponsors)

            Event ends up doing 1m PPV homes, and Golovkin's take goes to roughly $11m on the fight (plus personal sponsors).

            Folks simply assuming that the rematch is already set and immediate crack me up, especially with how deliberately slow folks have been with even disclosing a range for where they think the fight would end up.

            If the fight ends up 900k-1.1m PPV buys, Alvarez likely turns ice on the idea, sets the stage for Billy Joe Saunders for the May PPV, Daniel Jacobs for the September PPV (Gets Alvarez out to fight in NYC) [two fighters with personalities who can clearly help market the fights to the English speaking world], and then maybe comes back for Golovkin May 2019, lol.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View Post
              With that dude, there's never any telling what he's really trying to say. I could say the sky is blue and he'll post a raincloud just to say it's gray
              Who argues that the sky isn't blue?

              All I'm saying is that 40% of an assumed record take (simply going off the reality that Oscar-Floyd was a $100m fight) with 5-years fresher legs and the world not seeing you left for dead was a far better deal than folks here want to admit (looked again, and even after waiting the 4-5 years, Pacquiao still only got 40% of the take anyway).

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                Who argues that the sky isn't blue?

                All I'm saying is that 40% of an assumed record take (simply going off the reality that Oscar-Floyd was a $100m fight) with 5-years fresher legs and the world not seeing you left for dead was a far better deal than folks here want to admit (looked again, and even after waiting the 4-5 years, Pacquiao still only got 40% of the take anyway).
                When I said that dude, I was talking about the other guy you referenced

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                • #38
                  Good point/question.

                  There's a reason why big names in big fights don't take flat fees.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Porter's Dad
                    Obviously, we need to wait for the PPV results to come through and see what GGG made.

                    But it is absolutely mind-blogging that the same facking idiots who spent weeks telling Pac to take a $40m flat fee and were proven MASSIVELY wrong then came back years later DOING THE SAME EXACT THING, telling Golovkin to take a flat fee.

                    These IDIOTS, who support a guy who was only ever about the Money, put all their effort imploring a guy to take the short end of money to get a fight.

                    Nothing surprises me with this particular fanbase.
                    Pacquiao waited 5 years, basically fought his way into being written off by most of the boxing world and, were it not for time making the fight a casual fan's event, would've still walked away with the same 40% that Floyd initially offered (With more of the information known, Top Rank got $95m off of the PPV, another $25m from their share of the tickets, and then maybe another $10m from everything else; Pacquiao and Arum split the money, Pacquiao like got $85m, plus his sponsors/Asia TV less whatever advances owed to Arum).

                    $40m when the world was in the hype rocket versus even $70m after the world had already written you off?

                    Not that hard a choice.

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                    • #40
                      better question is...does anyone think there would have actually been a fight if the alleged flat fee was accepted...or was there even a flat fee offer at all? after canelo beat cotto, there was only one roadblock keeping the ggg fight from happening...and that roadblock has been known to indulge in ******* and womens undergarments.

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