Does anyone still think GGG should have taken the flat fee?

[Boxing42]

Bumlovkin only does 97 thou by himself. GOATnelo does 1,000,000 by himself but the lil g fans cum themselves and act like it's lil g pulling in all the fans

[boliodogs]

Only the serious GGG haters said that and they knew it wasn't true. I doubt even they will say it now.

[djtmal]

you know s**t is getting real moist when dudes are touchy over who has bigger ppv #'s...

[boliodogs]

Bumlovkin only does 97 thou by himself. GOATnelo does 1,000,000 by himself but the lil g fans cum themselves and act like it's lil g pulling in all the fans

I am a big GGG fan and I like to watch him fight. I think he is a good champion who defends his titles often against the best middleweights willing to fight him. . For his sake I hope he makes good money but I didn't become a GGG fan because of how much money he generates. If he was a terrible draw I would still be a fan because of the type of boxer and person he is. I know you hate him but even boxers you hate deserve the respect to be called by their right names and not ****** childish insulting names like lil g and Bumlovkin.

[Curt Henning]

nah i dont think he should have taken the flat fee

but i think he and his fans should have realized he was chasing a 25 year old a-side for a couple of years...and that if he wanted the fight when he said he did he was going to have to accept canelos terms.....he waited it out and got a good deal....but he and his fans complained and called canelo a coward...despite canelo needing to rush the fight for absolutely nothing....golovkin was always going to have to work on canelos timeframe as he needed the fight more than canelo....but hbo and the media were pushing canelo hard and backing him into a corner because of golovkins desperation for legitimacy........i

[GGG Gloveking]

Bumlovkin only does 97 thou by himself. GOATnelo does 1,000,000 by himself but the lil g fans cum themselves and act like it's lil g pulling in all the fans

Cotto and Canelo, with their Mexico-Puerto Rico rivalry, only did 900k. This fight is rumored to have done 2M. It wasn't one person or another, it was the intrigue of the fight, that sold this one.

[Scipio2009]

Would come down to what the actual deal breakdown ended up being, tbh

In light of the figures, $27M gate, possibly 2M PPV units, does anyone still think Golovkin should have accepted the alleged $10M flat fee?

The tickets were likely split like most other big fight; MGM Resorts getting 50% of the tickets, with Golden Boy/K2 splitting the rest. Beyond that, there's been no mention of anyone saying that the event did that well since Loeffler allegedly leaked a number before the satellite numbers would even be available, lol.

There are a lot of moving parts on the deal, but to assume that Golovkin's take, even now, topped the original $10m+ offer (no one involved argued against the offer being less than 8 figures, with Golden Boy stating that the actual number was $15m) is a reach.

Off of the gate alone, how much money actually ended up with K2 (nevermind how K2 and Golovkin split their take)? Between MGM Resorts getting half the tickets, the costs associated with actually putting on the event, the cost for the undercard, and assuming that Golden Boy/K2 split things even 70/30, you're looking at $4m, maybe $5m heading to K2.

If the event did somehow manage to do 2m buys (I'm on record with doubts of the event getting passed 1m buys), that'd still be $20m-$25m heading to K2.

With Alvarez likely not sharing any of his Mexico money, all in and with the rosiest assumptions, K2 is likely looking at $35m (plus whatever they got on the mark-up for any tickets that they put on the secondary market) to split with Golovkin on your 2 million PPV homes event.

Fight ends up doing 1 million homes, and the K2/Golovkin pot likely drops down to somewhere near $20m (with Alvarez being 'meh' on the notion of fighting again).

Folks will argue the point forever, but $10m to move up the fight's timeline (35 years old is still 35 years old, made worse by the beyond extended amateur career) and sidestep the "he's not superhuman" performance against Daniel Jacobs will likely turn out to be an opportunity missed, after ending up with similar money with splitting the $20m with K2, looking ordinary, and now having the actual boxing press (Iole, Puigmire, and the actual journalist) and world (Atlas, ESPN generally, and even Max Kellerman couldn't really sugar it) openly talking to the rest of the sport's world about how ordinary Gennady Gennadyovich Golovkin actually is.

If Alvarez passes on the immediate rematch, Golovkin is likely back to fighting on regular HBO, and that doesn't seem to have registered with folks just yet.

[KillaCamNZ]

Bumlovkin only does 97 thou by himself. GOATnelo does 1,000,000 by himself but the lil g fans cum themselves and act like it's lil g pulling in all the fans

Canelo v Liam Smith did 300k
Canelo v Amir Khan did just under 600k

No, Canelo does not draw a million by himself.

[Scipio2009]

Not really

I'm guessing youre saying yes GGG should have accepted the flat fee

It looks like he's saying that it's not all that clear that Golovkin ended up with more than Golden Boy's alleged $15m offer even after having a piece of the event (how big or broad that piece ended up being bring unknown).

People here keep talking **** about the Floyd $40m offer, but ignore the fact that Floyd and Oscar ended up splitting $100 million on their fight, with Floyd and Canelo ending up splitting near that same amount after their fight.

Floyd and Manny match the business of what Oscar-Floyd did, and you'd see Manny with $40m (his money on the front end, less whatever he owed to Arum), Floyd with $60m (his on the back end, owing nothing to a promoter), and the fight would see Pacquiao and Floyd on 5 year fresher legs.

Pacquiao passed, got beat, got left for dead, was massaged back into the scene by Top Rank, ended up with a Top Rank-Mayweather Promotions 45/55 share (instead of the 40/60 of Floyd's offer), and watched the casual fan turn a $100m fight into a $300m/$400m fight (with the amount of money that actually made it to Pacquiao's pocket in doubt).

Pacquiao hopefully made more than the $40m, but at what cost? Had he taken the deal, the Bradley fight doesn't happen (avoiding that L), he and his camp don't try to pick off an "old" Juan Manuel Marquez (who almost killed him), and a five-year fresher Pacquiao likely leverages a good performance (I don't think he would've ever beat Floyd) into two PPV shots at Mayweather.

With the two Mayweather fights in 2012 (May and September PPVs), Pacquiao heads into 2013 with $80m+ in hand; book the return fight in Macau/Philippines (with the Floyd money in hand, Pacquiao can work with Arum to make the numbers make sense), and then you head into the Summer with Tim Bradley, massaging out the rest of the path.

[GGG Gloveking]

It looks like he's saying that it's not all that clear that Golovkin ended up with more than Golden Boy's alleged $15m offer even after having a piece of the event (how big or broad that piece ended up being bring unknown).

People here keep talking **** about the Floyd $40m offer, but ignore the fact that Floyd and Oscar ended up splitting $100 million on their fight, with Floyd and Canelo ending up splitting near that same amount after their fight.

Floyd and Manny match the business of what Oscar-Floyd did, and you'd see Manny with $40m (his money on the front end, less whatever he owed to Arum), Floyd with $60m (his on the back end, owing nothing to a promoter), and the fight would see Pacquiao and Floyd on 5 year fresher legs.

Pacquiao passed, got beat, got left for dead, was massaged back into the scene by Top Rank, ended up with a Top Rank-Mayweather Promotions 45/55 share (instead of the 40/60 of Floyd's offer), and watched the casual fan turn a $100m fight into a $300m/$400m fight (with the amount of money that actually made it to Pacquiao's pocket in doubt).

Pacquiao hopefully made more than the $40m, but at what cost? Had he taken the deal, the Bradley fight doesn't happen (avoiding that L), he and his camp don't try to pick off an "old" Juan Manuel Marquez (who almost killed him), and a five-year fresher Pacquiao likely leverages a good performance (I don't think he would've ever beat Floyd) into two PPV shots at Mayweather.

With the two Mayweather fights in 2012 (May and September PPVs), Pacquiao heads into 2013 with $80m+ in hand; book the return fight in Macau/Philippines (with the Floyd money in hand, Pacquiao can work with Arum to make the numbers make sense), and then you head into the Summer with Tim Bradley, massaging out the rest of the path.

With that dude, there's never any telling what he's really trying to say. I could say the sky is blue and he'll post a raincloud just to say it's gray