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  • #31
    Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
    If Canelo wants GGG again so badly, why is trying to stall the rematch until May? March is six months already, why not just do it in March? This is just one more thing that is killing boxing, even though it doesn't get talked about as much as all the other things that are killing boxing, and that delaying and sometimes even canceling the best fights unless both fighters can make the fight in May or September.

    In other words, say it's June, two fighters are in the best form of their lives, and the best is ready to be made, its the perfect time, except one fighter has a small hand injury. No big deal, he can be ready to make the fight in October. And yet, because of the obsession over these two dates, instead of just making the fight when it's hot, the promoters say "If he's not ready to make the fight by September, then we can't make it this year. We have to wait until next May." So instead of a fight happening when its hot, and the division and the sport moving forward, everything gets delayed seven months, by which point the other boxer can suffer a more serious injury, or any of a number of things can happen.

    Heck, Canelo-Cotto got delayed like an entire year simply due to the May-June dates as well, and that also delayed Canelo-GGG.

    So here we have an aging, declining fighter, GGG, and a matchup, Canelo-GGG, that has already failed to live up to what it could have been because it got delayed for so long, but now they're looking to delay it another five months more than necessary just to line it up with these ****** dates.

    So when you combine the delay before the rematch in order to line up with the dates, with the year long delay that already happened with Canelo-Cotto just to line up with the dates, you are looking at almost a year and half of basically dead space that has taken place among boxing's biggest stars and most interesting divisions the last five years, and for what? To make more money? If these promoters just used their brains, they would realize that a year and a half of wasted time in a boxer's short career is losing money, not making them more.

    That year and a half wasted over just these friggin dates is the difference between Canelo-GGG happening when GGG is 33 and a half verses 35, a huge difference to the quality of the fight for the paying customer, and therefore a huge difference for word of mouth and the future pay-per-view market of the sport.

    That year and a half wasted just over these friggin dates before GGG could become a mainstream star who could afford to pay his opponents big paydays is the difference between him being able to attract 3 more top opponents during his prime, and him having to settle for Kell Brook and Dominic Wade. It is the difference between boxing fans having gotten to see GGG-Charlo, GGG-Lara, and possibly even GGG-Ward, during GGG's prime, and boxing fans never getting to see those fights at all.


    Now do fans, and any promoters reading this, realize the true negative effect, really the negative butterfly effect, that delaying the best fights for over half a year just to conform to these two specifics dates has? Not only are you spoiling the big fight itself by waiting too long to make it, but you are wasting years of both boxers primes, losing money off other big potential matchups involving them that could have already happened after their fight against each other had it been made on time, and preventing any other stars or rivalries or forward momentum at all to develop in the division because everyone else has to wait on this big fight to finally happen on the perfect date too, not just the two boxers involved themselves.

    It totally ****s the sport. Middleweight should be the hottest division in boxing right now coming off of GGG-Canelo and GGG-Jacobs, but instead now the entire division at the top level is basically going to be put on ice again until GGG-Canelo II happens eight months from now. Sure, we might get Jacobs-Lemieux, which is great, but there will be no progress towards a full unification of the division, like there should have been years ago, because for the second year in a row, Team Canelo is making GGG wait to fight them while simultaneously also telling GGG not to fight anyone else in the meantime because he could get injured. There will also be no important mandatory fights taking place for the same reason, and those are supposed to be a key part of how the sport operates, meaning Jermall Charlo and Sergey Derevanchenko will also have their career momentum put on ice during what should be the hottest moment of their respective careers.

    Now not only can neither GGG or Canelo, two of the biggest stars in the sport, build their legacies or generate money in boxing for the next eight months, all just so they can line up their schedules with one friggin date, but Charlo and Derevanchenko, two potential upcoming stars, can't breakthrough either, legacy-wise or economically. Once again, the butterfly effect. And it just goes on from there. Holding boxers legacies, prime years, stardom, and earning potential all hostage to only two dates, four months apart, per year, makes no sense on many different levels. I have no idea who first came up with this idea, but it was extremely shortsighted, and it's time for a change. Is 2017 actually going to be a turning point for boxing? Then it's time for the sport to prove it by doing away with outdated business strategies like these that are only hurting the sport. Let's see GBP and K2 put their money where their mouth is and make the fight in March, and in a fan friendly venue like Dallas stadium as well, rather than Vegas. Otherwise, if they wait until the beginning of summer to make the fight in the desert, again, then that will show that boxing is still married to the same shortsighted bulslh1t that puts money ahead of the sport, the fans, the boxers involved in the fight themselves, all the other boxers in and around their division, and money too. It makes no sense!



    right, let me answer that by saying.....















    nah, just kidding..... didn't read it


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    • #32
      Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
      You ****** clumsy mother****er! Canelo dont need no piece of shet belt! If you don't believe me go see how much $$ Canelo made for the fight and then go see how much Triple g made for the fight.
      Now shut the **** up punk!
      That sounds good, but if that's true, why did he pay the sanction fee against Cotto, then again against Khan? And why the Smith fight? Smith surely isn't a name in US, and isnt the best at 154, so a belt is the only reason I can think that he would fight Mr Smith

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      • #33
        that russian kid better lay off the bbq's and do some running.....

        because that fat red kid wants to dish him up again

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        • #34
          GGG in the driving seat here, Canelo needs GGG more than GGG needs Canelo. GGG could quite easily fight BJS in a unification for all the belts for good money. If he decides to go that route, who does Canelo fight next May?

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          • #35
            Good! Well then let's get the ball rolling. Also, just for my two cents; GGG should take a tuneup fight before his rematch with Canelo.

            I believe by having Gennady sit around and twisting in the wind for nearly six months to the day, was part of the gamesmanship plan of Golden Boy all along, in order to rust and age him by making him wait; Which I believe subsequently and negatively effected his overall performance.

            Eight months is an eternity for any aging fighter to be sitting around without staying active. He needs another fight in the interim in order to stay sharper and busier.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
              right, let me answer that by saying.....nah, just kidding..... didn't read it

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              Psyched!

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              • #37
                Its funny how most people who thought Canelo won arent even Canelo fans. They just hate GGG so much that they become fans of whoever he fights. I honestly think most Mexicans scored the fight closer than most of the GGG haters.

                GGG haters & Ward haters have a alot in common. Discredit the fighter at every oppurtunity. Never give props where it's due. Always making excuses. Always bitter.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by kushking View Post
                  True golovtards would say such bîtchmade bs. Ggg already held a press conference saying hell duck jacobs 4 life,or u forgot? And u would hope your daddy ggg would duck canelo rematch because your scared hes gonna get destroyed worse the next time. Ggg was OUTBOXED completely canelo won 7-5 & could've been wider but he gassed & still made ggg miss 500+ shots. Ggg barely landed a clean power shot all night, only 8 weak ass jabs to the body,he barely threw 1 punch at a time while canelo countered him clean with combos upon combos. I challenge any non gggroupie to rewatch the fight & claim ggg won.
                  Canelo fought for 30 seconds a round ggg won 8-4

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                    Good! Well then let's get the ball rolling. Also, just for my two cents; GGG should take a tuneup fight before his rematch with Canelo.

                    I believe by having Gennady sit around and twisting in the wind for nearly six months to the day, was part of the gamesmanship plan of Golden Boy all along, in order to rust and age him by making him wait; Which I believe subsequently and negatively effected his overall performance.

                    Eight months is an eternity for any aging fighter to be sitting around without staying active. He needs another fight in the interim in order to stay sharper and busier.
                    I think an interim fight would be good for GGG too, but it's entirely probably that any fight agreement will preclude this - whether or not GBP see it as a possible advantage in the fight. they could make a justifiable claim that they don't want to allow it in case GGG loses.

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                    • #40
                      If canelo was serious this fight would be happening in December, not 2018, ggg is way older and I'm sure will fight in December, if any of the 2 needed extended time to recover that would be ggg

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