Comments Thread For: Daniel Jacobs Clarifies Role of Al Haymon in Eddie Hearn Union

[Sledgeweather17]

Jermall Charlo is still the WBC's mandatory challenger at 160lbs, and he's got more than enough muscle behind him that he'll get his shot, whether Golovkin and his camp pay up to bring him over (similar to how Jacobs got his shot) or he simply has Golovkin stripped (which would then trigger a similar dance with Derevyanchenko for the IBF belt).

If Charlo gets the Golovkin fight and beats him, the world becomes his oyster, he likely heads back to Showtime, and 'Bernard Hopkins' his way to stardom (take the belts home, fight out of Houston against whatever challengers emerge, and build on the Toyota Center as his home arena).

I would love for him to get that shot more than anything. But if GGG vacates and he fights for a vacant title his legacy will not be as great. They'll just call him a paper champion and HBO propaganda and the GGGtards will try and sweep the ducking of Charlo under the rug.

I really want Charlo to get his shot because I know he'll beat the shieeet literally out of GGG, but this is boxing, the most corrupt sport in the world.

[BWC]

ESPN, if I read Rafael's article correctly, basically picked up a 360 deal with Top Rank (ESPN is the only broadcast partner for Top Rank in US/Canada/Mexico, ESPN takes over the digital platform for Top Rank, ESPN distributes any PPV that Top Rank could have, ESPN also gets the rights to show fights from the video vaults of Top Rank Boxing [likely excluding and fights that HBO has rights to]) for not all that much money (Arum will pay himself before anything, but the fact that Pacquiao fighting in the US seems to no longer be an option and the modest disclosed payouts so far seem to indicate that the deal wasn't all that big).

18 cards per year, for 4 years, in a deal where ESPN gets a piece of everything, for not an astronomical amount of money, doesn't seem like a "jump over yourself" type of deal to me.

Fox/FS1 is a drastically different situation, for both parties, in the sense that any deal will likely be built on the amount of live and first-run content that could be delivered to FS1. If a deal ends up being something like 30 FS1 cards and 4-5 cards for FOX, there's more than enough talent under Haymon's umbrella to fill things out for Showtime and still deliver top matchups for the FOX dates.

No different than the current UFC/FOX deal; for $100m per year, FOX got 4 fight cards on FOX, maybe 15 fight cards for FS1, two seasons of TUF for FS1, and a lot of shoulder programming for FS1 (weigh-in show, pre-fight/post-fight commentary, promo material, content from the UFC library, etc) with the UFC keeping the entire 12 PPVs pie to themselves (even in the current down year, you're probably talking about at least another $100m once you've paid the cable/satellite companies).

I feel this is exactly the type of deal Haymon will sign with FOX/FS1. A UFC-type deal where Showtime/CBS get all the ultra-premium content and the rest going to FOX/FS1, much how the UFC operates now.

Should be an exciting time.

[Scipio2009]

I would love for him to get that shot more than anything. But if GGG vacates and he fights for a vacant title his legacy will not be as great. They'll just call him a paper champion and HBO propaganda and the GGGtards will try and sweep the ducking of Charlo under the rug.

I really want Charlo to get his shot because I know he'll beat the shieeet literally out of GGG, but this is boxing, the most corrupt sport in the world.

If Golovkin does simply vacate the belt, Charlo still fights for the vacant belt, takes it home to Houston, and builds his legacy at home (with Sergey Derevyanchenko following suit for the IBF belt, which he can co-feature on big shows in NYC until the audience starts coming out for him).

Spin is one thing, but it likely won't be anywhere near as effective if Golovkin is only standing with the WBA belt.

[killakali]

lol. Carl Frampton left Barry McGuigan to now fight for Frank Warren; when he fights again in the US, he'll still be fighting on Showtime (with BoxNation carrying the fight in the UK, instead of ITV or something).

Even in the Jacob's deal, to hear him tell it, Haymon brought Hearn to the friggin' table when that was the decision made by the camp.

Beyond that, where are you even getting this story about "most of the stable is unhappy" to begin with? Vanes was the only person to go crying to the press, and that was after he'd come up short in like the third world title shot that Haymon was able to deliver for him.

Yordenis Ugas has had 5 fights over the last 12 months, simply because he keeps ready to fight and will take solid money to fight.

Big fights and fights for big money don't just happen, especially in a world where the fighters are actually kept in the loop of things.

Not every fighter can simply go, get a guaranteed deal from a broadcaster, and still be in position for a chance at a big PPV fight that said broadcaster would openly push for.

Jacobs never said Al brought Hearn to the table LMAOOO He said that he kept Al in the loop. Al had zero to do with that deal and now he hardly has any power with Jacobs. Jacobs has a manager and a promoter calling the shots and now an exclusive contract on a network where Al has zero fighters. GTFOH. Nice spin sell doe.

As for Frampton yeah he got rid of his promoter but u leave out the fact that he was with Haymon but dumped him too so that he could sign with Mathew Macklin's management company which you conveniently left out LMAOOO. You also don't mention Beterbiev who will be signed to Top Rank in less than two months.

All eyes are on Thurman, Spence and Garcia now that Jacobs was the first fighter to cross over. It makes sense though. Most of Al's guys only fight once a year. They don't have the dates anymore so he needs to trim down his roster or more of these guys will cross over. He still will collect his 10% so that is good for him but I think he wants to keep his A list fighters at Showtime so it will be interesting to see how many of them crossover. I know Hearn is looking at taking more of Haymon's A list fighters so we shall see what happens