Golovkin at 35 is at his absolute prime.

[Robbie Barrett]

Name the pressure fighters who were at their peaks at 35. I'll wait.

Name a pressure fighter that didn't turn pro until their mid twenties and didn't take a challenge until 35. I won't wait, because there's only 1.

[GGG Gloveking]

Other fighters usually turn pro at a far younger age. Their technical and mental ability does too because of this. Golovkin didn't turn pro until his mid twenties. He was still learning while in his so called "physical prime", he also didn't have world class trainer and team. He's technical and mental ability is far superior to what it was in his 20s and outweighs what he could have lost physically. You're too ****** man.

So, for all this back and forth, and you calling me ****** over and over, you end up agreeing with what I said originally that you quoted, which is he has lost something physically between 28 and 35. People age. It's a fact of life. Father Time is undefeated.

How old are you?

[KingHippo]

looked as good as ever in his last fight.

Missed nearly 70% of his power shots.

[Redd Foxx]

No.. Hopkins and Golovkin have different styles. Can't see Golovkin maintaining that come forward style even to age 40.

No shyt. Which is why I lol'd when these hardcore GG clowns were pushing that idea. Then, when they saw him start to get hit more they changed their tune to, "In his prime he was the best ever but everyone waited for him to get old."

[TonyGe]

No shyt. Which is why I lol'd when these hardcore GG clowns were pushing that idea. Then, when they saw him start to get hit more they changed their tune to, "In his prime he was the best ever but everyone waited for him to get old."

I'm a Golovkin fan. What Hopkins did was amazing. I'm not really a fan of his style but you have to admire his determination. How does a guy aged 40 plus get the will to put in the grueling workload of prepping for a fight. Andre Ward just retired saying the grind of training was getting too hard. He's 33..

[Cutthroat]

Ok let's put an end to this right quick because people here love misappropriate terms while ignoring their definitions. LOTS? Ok, name 12 professional athletes that in their 40s are having performances of their counterparts who are in their 30s..NATURALLY. Since you think there are "lots." Also while we are on the topic just curious where your expertise on later in life capabilities lies so "How Old Are You?" I'm 38 so I speak from experience on the physical decline. A fighter can have all of the experience in the world but if the body can't execute it none of that matters. Floyd could coast his way against many welter's but he's retiring because he knows he can't get the same out of his body and who has more experience than him in big fights currently active in the sport?

I'm not saying they're at their physical peak at 40, I'm saying that even at that age they still come in great physical condition. Athletes don't burn out nearly as fast as they used to these days. 35-40 isn't what it used to be for athletes.

Sergio Martinez was 35 when he was at his peak vs Pavlik, Adonis Stevenson is a champion at 40, Hopkins was still able to move up and win a title at 49, Marquez has been able to move up and win a title at 40, Wladimir was still dominating his competition in his late 30's, Luis Ortiz is 38 some rumors as old as 50 and he's still dominating, Tony Thompson was still capable of beating guys like Price at 40, etc.

ggg is a brawler but has had very little wear and tear on his body, he's been able to end most of them relatively early. Ouma, Brook, Jacobs, Canelo have been the fights he's taken the most punishment.

Naturally? PED's have been around since the 1950's, almost no athlete is clean. Diet, training methods, medical technology, all of it has advanced and made athletes capable of performing at a high level.

You may be 38 but you're not a pro athlete with access to nutritionists, training facilities, strength and conditioning coaches etc.

Floyd has a lot of wear and tear on his body, he's been fighting world class competition since his early 20's, ggg has not. Like I said, ggg's career has been easy, it's been progressively getting harder year after year, he's been moved at a VERY slow pace.

[turnedup]

I'm not saying they're at their physical peak at 40, I'm saying that even at that age they still come in great physical condition. Athletes don't burn out nearly as fast as they used to these days. 35-40 isn't what it used to be for athletes.

Sergio Martinez was 35 when he was at his peak vs Pavlik, Adonis Stevenson is a champion at 40, Hopkins was still able to move up and win a title at 49, Marquez has been able to move up and win a title at 40, Wladimir was still dominating his competition in his late 30's, Luis Ortiz is 38 some rumors as old as 50 and he's still dominating, Tony Thompson was still capable of beating guys like Price at 40, etc.

ggg is a brawler but has had very little wear and tear on his body, he's been able to end most of them relatively early. Ouma, Brook, Jacobs, Canelo have been the fights he's taken the most punishment.

Naturally? PED's have been around since the 1950's, almost no athlete is clean. Diet, training methods, medical technology, all of it has advanced and made athletes capable of performing at a high level.

You may be 38 but you're not a pro athlete with access to nutritionists, training facilities, strength and conditioning coaches etc.

Floyd has a lot of wear and tear on his body, he's been fighting world class competition since his early 20's, ggg has not. Like I said, ggg's career has been easy, it's been progressively getting harder year after year, he's been moved at a VERY slow pace.

Let's start off with the part in bold here..don't assume..I did compete on amateur level in boxing and competed as a professional cyclist for four years before a car accident put that to an end. In terms of nutrition, enhancements, and so forth you'll find few more knowledgeable than cyclists.

To address your comparison of Floyd vs Golovkin, you forget to equate for the brain trauma suffered here. This is something often goes under estimated by fans. Floyd's style allowed him to take more punishment to the body (arms, shoulders, ribs, abdomen) and Golovkin's style has seen him take that level of abuse to his head. Sergio didn't take the kind of abuse to the head Golovkin had either but he took lots of it to the body and look how his body broke down overnight at 35.

You said lots of fighters, that's not lots of fighters. The reality is you don't heal the same, your recuperation is not as rapid, you have to replace more of what you put out because your body just isn't generating the same natural chemicals in your 30s. Even your ***** count diminishes in your 30s as a man, as does your testosterone levels. There have always been anomalies like the baseball player Julio Franco who just have not faced the abuse their counter parts have and are durable. That's once in a blue type stuff. Bernard in his 40s was not high caliber, Adonis Stevenson fights once in a blue moon against mediocre competition, so those names aren't saying much.

You did not address my question though..How old are you?

[Cutthroat]

[QUOTE=turnedup;18088273Let's start off with the part in bold here..don't assume..I did compete on amateur level in boxing and competed as a professional cyclist for four years before a car accident put that to an end. In terms of nutrition, enhancements, and so forth you'll find few more knowledgeable than cyclists.[/QUOTE]

Well if you've been in a car accident of course that's going to cut your career short. And as a cyclist your physical peak matters more so than a boxer's.

To address your comparison of Floyd vs Golovkin, you forget to equate for the brain trauma suffered here. This is something often goes under estimated by fans. Floyd's style allowed him to take more punishment to the body (arms, shoulders, ribs, abdomen) and Golovkin's style has seen him take that level of abuse to his head. Sergio didn't take the kind of abuse to the head Golovkin had either but he took lots of it to the body and look how his body broke down overnight at 35.

Compare ggg to Maidana, Rios, Soto Karass, Margarito, Provodnikov, etc. and you will see that ggg's career is vastly different than these fighters. He has ended the majority of his fights early, he's taken very little punishment, and it's taken him until he's in his mid 30's to fight world class competition.

Sergio Martinez got the crap beat out of him and stopped by Margarito early in his career. Wlad has suffered multiple beatings, even a guy like Ward has been down hard twice, Stevenson was knocked out cold, Kovalev was knocked out in the amateurs, Cotto was savagely stopped by Margarito, etc. even Floyd has taken a good amount of cumulative damage throughout the years.

You said lots of fighters, that's not lots of fighters. The reality is you don't heal the same, your recuperation is not as rapid, you have to replace more of what you put out because your body just isn't generating the same natural chemicals in your 30s. Even your ***** count diminishes in your 30s as a man, as does your testosterone levels. There have always been anomalies like the baseball player Julio Franco who just have not faced the abuse their counter parts have and are durable. That's once in a blue type stuff. Bernard in his 40s was not high caliber, Adonis Stevenson fights once in a blue moon against mediocre competition, so those names aren't saying much.

You did not address my question though..How old are you?

That's a good chunk of fighters and that's just off the top of my head. Again, I'm not saying ggg was in his physical prime, I'm saying that at 35 he hasn't declined that much physically and his experience gained from Brook, Lemieux, Jacobs etc. made him his absolute best as a boxer.

I'm 26. Now answer my question, which version of ggg fares better against Canelo?

The 32 year old version that was going life and death with Ouma just 2 years ago, still fighting no names. Or the 35 year old that learned from fighting Lemieux, Brook, Murray, Jacobs?

In order to get better you have to be pushed to your limits, I felt Jacobs did just that and made ggg learn, made him his absolute best even at 35.

I think 35 was his sweet spot, no more no less. I think ggg after 3 tough fights in a row where he's taken some of the most damage of his career, Brook, Jacobs, Canelo will FINALLY start showing the effects at 36 and I fully expect Canelo to seal the deal next time around.

[eco1]

some of you idiots make it hard to root for the man.

[Team Reek]

he's slipping a little as 99% of athletes do at age 35 but still close to the top of his game.