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  • #31
    Originally posted by jabsRstiff
    But.....

    Don't you think Hopkins proves something, when compared against Roy's series with Tarver ?
    Why would Roy be any more faded than Hopkins is ?
    Roy is younger, did not have a tougher career, & certainly did not live a tougher life
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    No matter what you think of Tarver.....it ( a win)is a big task for someone at this stage of Hopkins' career to accomplish.
    Whilst I can see what you are saying, people physically age at different rates, regardless of how active they've been.

    Hopkins is obviously a bit of a genetic freak to be at the top of the sport as long as he has (& also at his age) for a middleweight.

    It's also impossible & too simplistic for people to say 'Roy losing all the weight after the Ruiz fight made him age'.. Could be true, but who really knows?
    Last edited by NAB; 06-06-2006, 07:02 PM.

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    • #32
      Why a victory over Tarver put him up there with the best middleweight of all time, if the fight is not a middleweight fight? He lost to the two best REAL middleweights he faced, Taylor(twice) and Jones.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by jabsRstiff
        But.....

        Don't you think Hopkins proves something, when compared against Roy's series with Tarver ?
        Why would Roy be any more faded than Hopkins is ?
        Roy is younger, did not have a tougher career, & certainly did not live a tougher life.

        No matter what you think of Tarver.....it ( a win)is a big task for someone at this stage of Hopkins' career to accomplish.
        Roy damaged his body to fight Tarver.

        Hopkins will ENHANCE his body to fight Tarver. This fight for Hopkins is like when Roy got to fight Ruiz. They both had Macky Shilstone, got to move up in weight, and did not have to worry about draining anything.

        When Roy fought Tarver, he had to sit in a sauna for hours. Hopkins will not have to deal with that.

        Would this win be big for Hopkins? Kind of. No matter what, Tarver is still a B fighter and has proven it. But he IS the champ, and that does mean something. I just don't think it's earth-shattering.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by NAB
          Whilst I can see what you are saying, people physically age at different rates, regardless of how active they've been.

          Hopkins is obviously a bit of a genetic freak to be at the top of the sport as long as he has (& also at his age) for a middleweight.

          It's also impossible & too simplistic for people to say 'Roy losing all the weight after the Ruiz fight made him age'.. Could be true, but who really knows?
          Honestly, it's not too simplistic or a cop out. It's just factually accurate, as any athletic training course will teach you. The permanent effect of severe muscle atrophy is a real issue that can be learned out of or inside the classroom.

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          • #35
            Here's my question, what will a Tarver win do for him? If Hopkins loses IMO it won't do anything for Tarver, real boxing fans will just say he beat another over the hill boxer(wether it's true or not) who was in the wrong weightclass. I think that he knocked out a primed RJJ and beat Johnson( i didn't see this fight though), now he found his gimic "the legend(old man) Killer". I remember hearing that he wanted to fight Tyson and i thought it wasn't true, but when i saw him talking about it on the countdown that's when i lost what little respect i had for him.

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            • #36
              it would make hopkins the best middleweight to lightheavy weight in the world

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              • #37
                Originally posted by JuicyJuice
                Not much. What has Tarver really done other than beat up a ridiculously faded version of Jones?

                And Tarver is something like 37 himself.

                It'll be just a couple of over-rated, old men fighting on over-hyped HBO bull****.
                your just pissed cause neither one of them is named chris eubank, and they aren't british, you dushbag. those two old men could take out any british fools you got going right now in those respective weight classes. fool

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by CarminePersico
                  your entitled to your own opinion... many people who argue usually have no basis , because either they dont know what the **** they talkin about or they didnt see the fight and i believe you fall under one of those ...so eat a **** ,,,

                  Hey dumb **** what do you mean no basis? How the hell can Bhops win the fight when he wasted ****i'n half of the 12 rounds just running around? What basis are looking for. Are you blind? On the second fight it's more clearer that Taylor won.

                  It's either you're just another pathetic nuthugger or you don't know the sport. Irregardless how many black eyes Taylor got, if he connected with more punches then he wins in the scorecards, got the idea, ****HEAD?

                  That ****i'n issue has been posted and argued in this forum over and over again. And no mater how close those fights we're Bhops lost. So accept the facts, MORON!

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                  • #39
                    Of course his stock almost doubles. I mean holding a middleweight title defense record is one thing, but jumping to another class and beating the best guy, a guy Roy Jones Jr. could not defeat, is huge for anybody at Light Heavyweight and under. Hopkins will surpass Jones by miles if he is able to beat Tarver in my opinion.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by CarminePersico
                      your entitled to your own opinion... many people who argue usually have no basis , because either they dont know what the **** they talkin about or they didnt see the fight and i believe you fall under one of those ...so eat a **** ,,,

                      I predict you are banned within 3 days

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