HBO commentary/agenda regarding low blows...

[Vlad_]

If you are not going to look at this in an unbiased way, or talk about me being salty, then leave this thread. This is not a rehash of Ward-Kovalev 2 outcome. It is a general discussion about inconsistency of the commentators.

I just want to analyze facts.

Watching the first fight of the GGG-Canelo card, Ryan Martin against Francisco Rojo, there were several low blows thrown.

If you didn’t watch it, go do so first and listen to the HBO commentary.

Kellerman and Jones started making a big deal of it. They started saying how the navel is the limit, anything below the navel is low... If the navel is covered by the shorts, that is is up to the referee to determine whether the shot was low and make a decision...
There was even a point deduction after several warnings from the ref...

Now going back to Ward-Kovalev 2, these same two cvnts were calling shots that landed much lower borderline, great body work. Jones even had the audacity to call Kovalev’s trunks being too high at the beginning of the fight, when his navel was clearly visible. Kovalev's trunks were never any higher than in any of his previous fights.

Looking back, there was clearly an agenda and something was up, because their commentary of both these fights is completely opposed.

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It was a great stoppage by Ward. The right hand Ward tagged him with scrambled his brain. Kovalev was unable to DEFEND himself from the bodyshots. It's the referees duty to stop it.

Inexperience from Kovalev. If it's low take a knee.

[Vlad_]

It was a great stoppage by Ward. The right hand Ward tagged him with scrambled his brain. Kovalev was unable to DEFEND himself from the bodyshots. It's the referees duty to stop it.

Inexperience from Kovalev. If it's low take a knee.

And in regards to the commentary of Kellerman and Jones in regards to low blows in the Kovalev-Ward fight and the Martin-Rojo?

Your hero retired by the way, Kovalev finished his career:

http://andresogward.com/missionaccomplished/




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And in regards to the commentary of Kellerman and Jones in regards to low blows in the Kovalev-Ward fight and the Martin-Rojo?

Your hero retired by the way, Kovalev finished his career:

http://andresogward.com/missionaccomplished/




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In regards to that you might be onto something, I don't know. Max and RJJ are Americans. Andre Ward is a Gold medalist. HBO is an American network. Subconsciously they were favouring Ward or maybe I'm talking crap.

In regards to Ward retiring, he'd be Sir Andre Ward over here. I'll leave it at that.

[Boxfan83]

If HBO wants to stay in the boxing game, they really need to do a complete makeover starting with the broadcast team. I wouldnt mind with Kellerman and Lampley did fighter interviews or gave opinions before and after the fights kinda like Boxnation but no more than that. As for lederman, they need to give that guy an early retirement.

I am a Ward fan so I was happy with the outcome of both the fight BUT not being a hypocrite, I can definitely relate to what you are talking about with other fights in regards to HBO.

[kafkod]

And in regards to the commentary of Kellerman and Jones in regards to low blows in the Kovalev-Ward fight and the Martin-Rojo?

Your hero retired by the way, Kovalev finished his career:

http://andresogward.com/missionaccomplished/




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In regards to that you might be onto something, I don't know. Max and RJJ are Americans. Andre Ward is a Gold medalist. HBO is an American network. Subconsciously they were favouring Ward or maybe I'm talking crap.

In regards to Ward retiring, he'd be Sir Andre Ward over here. I'll leave it at that.

As a UK fan I was astonished at the way boxing people over here simply accepted the temporary redefinition of what a low blow was during that fight and moved on without any fuss at all ..

" Mmm .. yeah .. that did look low to me Barry, and there was a couple of e'm too. ... but that was a great left hook from Ward a little earlier .. "

[Vlad_]

As a UK fan I was astonished at the way boxing people over here simply accepted the temporary redefinition of what a low blow was during that fight and moved on without any fuss at all ..

" Mmm .. yeah .. that did look low to me Barry, and there was a couple of e'm too. ... but that was a great left hook from Ward a little earlier .. "

You're on point!

It's like ah well he took a couple shots to the genital area, a bit here and there, it took out his breath and compromised his whole performance, but man while he was trying to recover he missed that beautiful right hand from Ward, and that's what hurt him... Reallyyy??

[mlac]

People will see what they want to see. You can't force them to accept reality if they want to live in a fantasy world

[M Bison]

If you are not going to look at this in an unbiased way, or talk about me being salty, then leave this thread.

I just want to analyze facts.

Watching the first fight of the GGG-Canelo card, Ryan Martin against Francisco Rojo, there were several low blows thrown.

If you didn’t watch it, go do so first and listen to the HBO commentary.

Kellerman and Jones started making a big deal of it. They started saying how the navel is the limit, anything below the navel is low... If the navel is covered by the shorts, that is is up to the referee to determine whether the shot was low and make a decision...
There was even a point deduction after several warnings from the ref...

Now going back to Ward-Kovalev 2, these same two cvnts were calling shots that landed much lower borderline, great body work. Jones even had the audacity to call Kovalev’s trunks being too high at the beginning of the fight, when his navel was clearly visible.

Looking back, there was clearly an agenda and something was up, because their commentary of both these fights is completely opposed.

Yanks tend to do this, Ward should have had that so-called two wins turned to NC's one due to incompetence and the other due to a blatant breaking of the rules with low shots, not borderline low, low.

[kafkod]

You're on point!

It's like ah well he took a couple shots to the genital area, a bit here and there, it took out his breath and compromised his whole performance, but man while he was trying to recover he missed that beautiful right hand from Ward, and that's what hurt him... Reallyyy??

Another that surprised me was how nobody in the UK sports media seemed to pick up on the fact that earlier in the fight Ward was warned for hitting Kovalev on the belt of his trunks. Then later, punches on the belt and even below the belt were both ok, because Kovalev's trunks were a little high.

I think the UK boxing media are in awe of American boxing, and the attitude seems to be that if it happens in an an American ring, then nobody here should question it.