Comments Thread For: Wilder: Luis Ortiz is The Boogeyman - He's Getting Knocked Out!

[BoxingFan85]

Name a single fighter they've beaten better than Ortiz.

Wlad lost to the 2 best fighters he fought, Vitali's career defining W is against...Arreola?

Vitali's resume isn't great and career defining win was Hyde and Samuel Peters..
But it still is better than Ortiz's resume..

[Cutthroat]

Here is who Wlad has beat..
Ibragimov
Peters
Haye
Povetkin
Wach
Byrd
Pulev
Jennings

This includes Gold Medalists and Title holders..
There are more undefeated young guys in his list than Lennox's but Lennox had Holyfield and Tyson in his resume, so it stands out..

Name one fighter Ortiz has beat who is ever held a title?

I don't see a single guy on that list that has shown Ortiz' quality. It's Haye, Pedvetkin, then everyone else. Quality>Quantity

Haye got exposed by Valuev and Bellew, and we all know the Pedvetkin fight was a joke with Wlad wrestling his way to a W.

Ortiz blasted out Thompson & Jennings in a far more devastating manner than Wlad.

Wlad lost to the 2 best fighters he's fought and lost to several journeymen.

Vitali's claim to fame is getting his face torn open by a severely past it Lewis.

[Cutthroat]

Vitali's resume isn't great and career defining win was Hyde and Samuel Peters..
But it still is better than Ortiz's resume..

Peter couldn't even outbox James **** out Toney in their 1st fight, he needed a robbery which is why they had a rematch, struggled against McCline too. He's not even better than Stiverne, at least he wouldn't get out boxed by JT.

Jennings is also a better win than Hyde. Chisora is probably the 2nd best guy he's fought and he was getting touched up quite a bit.

Vitali would've lost against prime Corrie Sanders, he was a semi-retired golfer yet had him on ***** street in round 1 but punched himself out.

[BoxingFan85]

I don't see a single guy on that list that has shown Ortiz' quality. It's Haye, Pedvetkin, then everyone else. Quality>Quantity

Haye got exposed by Valuev and Bellew, and we all know the Pedvetkin fight was a joke with Wlad wrestling his way to a W.

Ortiz blasted out Thompson & Jennings in a far more devastating manner than Wlad.

Wlad lost to the 2 best fighters he's fought and lost to several journeymen.

Vitali's claim to fame is getting his face torn open by a severely past it Lewis.

Thompson is a good win for Ortiz? Wlad KOed him 2008 and second time in 2012..
Haye got exposed by Valuev and Bellew!!?
Haye handed Valuev his ass, a guy who was 1ft taller and 80lbs heavier, hell even old Holyfield thumped Valuev but got robbed..
Bellew fought a Haye who is looking for a paycheck, he is a better version of shannon briggs..
Ignorance is bliss I recon..
Keep living in your bubble..


What a troll

[BoxingFan85]

Peter couldn't even outbox James **** out Toney in their 1st fight, he needed a robbery which is why they had a rematch, struggled against McCline too. He's not even better than Stiverne, at least he wouldn't get out boxed by JT.

Jennings is also a better win than Hyde. Chisora is probably the 2nd best guy he's fought and he was getting touched up quite a bit.

Vitali would've lost against prime Corrie Sanders, he was a semi-retired golfer yet had him on ***** street in round 1 but punched himself out.

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[Cutthroat]

Thompson is a good win for Ortiz? Wlad KOed him 2008 and second time in 2012..
Haye got exposed by Valuev and Bellew!!?
Haye handed Valuev his ass, a guy who was 1ft taller and 80lbs heavier, hell even old Holyfield thumped Valuev but got robbed..
Bellew fought a Haye who is looking for a paycheck, he is a better version of shannon briggs..
Ignorance is bliss I recon..
Keep living in your bubble..


What a troll

Ortiz handled Thompson better than Wlad ever did, same with Jennings.

Haye barely got past Valuev, 1 judge had it a draw, the other 2 scored it 116-112, his performance was terrible, barely threw anything. Ancient Holyfield and Ruiz arguably put up better fights against Valuev.

Bellew came in soft with a gut, his 1st fight at HW, no excuses. Haye had 5 rounds to stop him, couldn't do it.

idk where this Haye hype comes from, his best wins were at cruiser, Valuev is his best win at HW and he put up similar performances to Ruiz & Holyfield.

[BoxingFan85]

Ortiz handled Thompson better than Wlad ever did, same with Jennings.

Haye barely got past Valuev, 1 judge had it a draw, the other 2 scored it 116-112, his performance was terrible, barely threw anything. Ancient Holyfield and Ruiz arguably put up better fights against Valuev.

Bellew came in soft with a gut, his 1st fight at HW, no excuses. Haye had 5 rounds to stop him, couldn't do it.

idk where this Haye hype comes from, his best wins were at cruiser, Valuev is his best win at HW and he put up similar performances to Ruiz & Holyfield.

A Thompson who was 44 yrs old and shot to shït? You are claiming that to be his best win apart from Jennings?

Haye's best win was Chisora and Valuev..

Just because Ortiz knocked Jennings and Wlad UD him, Ortiz is a better boxer in your book?

Sure.. the whole style makes fights means nothing in boxing..
Ortiz has been on a bum feast since Jennings.. Allen, Scott, Thompson yet he is a quality boxer who has proved more than anyone Wlad has faced..
Boy you trippin...

Save yourself some embarrasent because you have given nothing but ******ed logic to prove your point and fell flat in your face..

[eco1]

wlad, even today, would kill bum squad

[Cutthroat]

A Thompson who was 44 yrs old and shot to shït? You are claiming that to be his best win apart from Jennings?

Thompson was the same fighter he was in 2012 lol, he used to be an elite heavyweight in Wlad's era even at 38 years old. The 00's HW scene was hot garbage.

Haye's best win was Chisora and Valuev..

At this point Chisora is just a gate keeper, and like I said, Haye's performance vs Valuev was on par with John Ruiz and Evander Holyfield, many people scored it a draw.

Wilder could never squeak past Valuev and be considered an elite HW.

Just because Ortiz knocked Jennings and Wlad UD him, Ortiz is a better boxer in your book?

Wlad struggled against Jennings, Ortiz absolutely dominated him. Again, 2 judges had Wlad winning 116-111, Jennings deducted for holding even though Wlad did it 2x as often lol.

Sure.. the whole style makes fights means nothing in boxing..
Ortiz has been on a bum feast since Jennings.. Allen, Scott, Thompson yet he is a quality boxer who has proved more than anyone Wlad has faced..
Boy you trippin...

Save yourself some embarrasent because you have given nothing but ******ed logic to prove your point and fell flat in your face..

Wlad has lost to lesser fighters than Scott and Allen

Purrity, Sanders, Brewster ring a bell? He lost to the 2 best fighters he fought as well.

Imagine what you'd say if Wilder had L's to Purrity, Sanders, Brewster, Fury, Joshua. But because Wlad racked up wins against B-C level opponents he's regarded as a legend, but when Wilder does it he's considered a bum.

Wach, Rahman, Chambers, Austin, etc. etc. these are the types of fighters that fill Wlad's resume, the same or even lesser than the guys Wilder has only fought a handful of but gets shat on for.

[cally93]

I don't know. We just saw a fight they promised was going to be like Hagler-Hearns but it turned out to be just Canelo-Golovkin. I also don't anticipate a KO. Both of them are too experienced to walk into anything. I expect it be at a little higher level than the Stiverne fight.

You make some great points but you cannot compare heavyweights to fighters in weight classes, it is a division unlike any other and while you're right in the sense that it will be cagey to begin with, these guys hit too hard for their to not be some kind of telling affect later in the fight.
Plus Ortiz hits harder than Stiverne and has higher ring IQ etc but slow feet.

Ortiz has to try get inside and Wilder has to try use his length to try get off that right hand at a distance. Can't wait will be a good fight I expect a Mid to late Wilder stoppage win though.