Comments Thread For: Wilder: Luis Ortiz is The Boogeyman - He's Getting Knocked Out!

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  • Evil_Meat
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    #51
    If Wilder wins it means nothing since Ortiz is a 48 year old man. If Ortiz wins Wilder is exposed.

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    • LetOutTheCage
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      #52
      Originally posted by Dle
      Somebody's getting knocked out here. Best heavyweight fight in a long time. 2 big undefeated ko artist in the prime of their careers. This could be another Hagler-Hearns on steroids orKing King Vs Godzilla in real life. Cant't wait. Joshua, this is how to be a man.
      You mean since Joshua vs klitschko so not that long

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      • HarvardBlue
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        #53
        Originally posted by cally93
        You make some great points but you cannot compare heavyweights to fighters in weight classes, it is a division unlike any other and while you're right in the sense that it will be cagey to begin with, these guys hit too hard for their to not be some kind of telling affect later in the fight.
        Plus Ortiz hits harder than Stiverne and has higher ring IQ etc but slow feet.

        Ortiz has to try get inside and Wilder has to try use his length to try get off that right hand at a distance. Can't wait will be a good fight I expect a Mid to late Wilder stoppage win though.
        I mentioned the Stiverne fight because although Ortiz is a better boxer he kinda go about business like Stiverne. He's a little methodical and like to plod his way through a fight. The same way Stiverne was against Wilder. I don't think Wilder will knock him out because Ortiz looks like he has a chin. Wilder has been taking some time to knock other out recently so I still think it goes the distance. The big fight you'll see all the fireworks is Joshua-Wilder if it ever happens.

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        • uppercut510
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          #54
          Originally posted by GMAN SUPREME
          because bum squad has fought nothing but absolute bums and has been protected yet some ******s on here want to convince us he's the next great heavyweight. plus he fights like a drunken sailor all sloppy and **** lol.
          u guys have no respect for the sport, before Jacobs your boy didn't fight anything worth writing home about and yet he was being labeled as and ATG and greatest of all time in that weight class! if any of u really understood how hard this sport was u wouldn't seek to destroy and tear down any fighter who isn't your fav. he tried to fight better comp, they ran and got caught on roids. not his fault. his right and and lead left hook are beauty, yes he needs to tighten up on techniques but hes a late bloomer and is 6;7 hes never going to be the most technical fighter.

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          • BoxingFan85
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            #55
            Originally posted by Cutthroat
            Thompson was the same fighter he was in 2012 lol, he used to be an elite heavyweight in Wlad's era even at 38 years old. The 00's HW scene was hot garbage.
            You just did not say that????

            A guy's caliber was same in 2008, 2012 & 2015 & never went down? Sure.. where's your tin foil hat at?

            At this point Chisora is just a gate keeper, and like I said, Haye's performance vs Valuev was on par with John Ruiz and Evander Holyfield, many people scored it a draw.
            Now Chisora is a gatekeeper but he was an up & coming boxer when Haye fought him.. Stop reading boxrec & go watch the fight.. you have pasted word to word what boxrec has..



            Wlad struggled against Jennings, Ortiz absolutely dominated him. Again, 2 judges had Wlad winning 116-111, Jennings deducted for holding even though Wlad did it 2x as often lol.

            Struggled?? Yeah sure buddy, Jennings boxed well but lost on all cards, a UD victory & no one complained about it..


            Wlad has lost to lesser fighters than Scott and Allen
            This is where you make a fool of yourself boy..


            Purrity, Sanders, Brewster ring a bell? He lost to the 2 best fighters he fought as well.
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            He lost to lesser fighters back in his early days but came back strong & won titles.. You keep sucking about Ortiz but Sam Peters was the boogeyman of the day & he beat him fair & square..

            Imagine what you'd say if Wilder had L's to Purrity, Sanders, Brewster, Fury, Joshua. But because Wlad racked up wins against B-C level opponents he's regarded as a legend, but when Wilder does it he's considered a bum.
            2yrs as a champ & who has he fought? Ortiz is the biggest fight on his career.. Learn to take criticism where it is due..

            Wach, Rahman, Chambers, Austin, etc. etc. these are the types of fighters that fill Wlad's resume, the same or even lesser than the guys Wilder has only fought a handful of but gets shat on for.
            Sure, ignore Ibragimov, Haye, Povetkin, Sam Peters & you have a bunch of mandatory who make up for bums.. it applies to every era you mongoloid.. Even Larry Holmes was ridiculed for his resume..

            I'm done with you dude.. its very clear where you head is (right up your arse).. I'll be glad when you see the light of day...

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            • Steven Mccowan
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              #56
              Originally posted by H-Tok
              BOLD PART: LMAO DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT MAN WTF

              Why would i do that? I gotta be back gere to brag once it plays out the same. Haha. Go away casual

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              • Cutthroat
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                #57
                You just did not say that????

                A guy's caliber was same in 2008, 2012 & 2015 & never went down? Sure.. where's your tin foil hat at?
                Like I said, he was already old when Wlad first fought him, the version Ortiz fought was pretty much the same.

                Now Chisora is a gatekeeper but he was an up & coming boxer when Haye fought him.. Stop reading boxrec & go watch the fight.. you have pasted word to word what boxrec has..
                Chisora has been a gate keeper for years, he was an up and comer when Haye fought him because HW was hot garbage back then. Since then it's been flooded with Wilder, AJ, Ortiz, Parker, etc. all these guys showed up around the same time.

                Struggled?? Yeah sure buddy, Jennings boxed well but lost on all cards, a UD victory & no one complained about it..
                2 judges had Wlad winning 116-111, 1pt deducted for holding, that is far from a dominating UD. Ortiz blasted him out.

                This is where you make a fool of yourself boy..

                He lost to lesser fighters back in his early days but came back strong & won titles.. You keep sucking about Ortiz but Sam Peters was the boogeyman of the day & he beat him fair & square..
                Sam Peter a boogeyman HAHA, the guy went life and death with James Toney so much so it warranted a rematch. Got dropped multiple times by McCline too.

                Wlad came back "strong" because Vitali took care of his losses, he didn't avenge his Sanders or Purrity loss and he lost to the 2 best fighters he faced, AJ and Fury.


                2yrs as a champ & who has he fought? Ortiz is the biggest fight on his career.. Learn to take criticism where it is due..
                Wlad didn't fight an A level fighter until he was 35 years old, 35


                Sure, ignore Ibragimov, Haye, Povetkin, Sam Peters & you have a bunch of mandatory who make up for bums.. it applies to every era you mongoloid.. Even Larry Holmes was ridiculed for his resume..

                I'm done with you dude.. its very clear where you head is (right up your arse).. I'll be glad when you see the light of day...
                Since when is 5'10 Ibragimov elite? That midget would pose 0 threat to any elite HW today, couldn't even beat Ray Austin. Wlad should've been DQ'd against Povetkin, Peter went life and death with Toney, that all you got?

                Go ahead and run off, truth hurts. Wlad lost to the 2 best guys he fought, didn't fight an elite cruiserweight until he was 35, and didn't avenge 2/3 of his losses.

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                • H-Tok
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Steven Mccowan
                  Why would i do that? I gotta be back gere to brag once it plays out the same. Haha. Go away casual
                  LMAO calling me casual? But you have Ortiz at the same level as Stiverne? ...what a fckin clown

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                  • Steven Mccowan
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by H-Tok
                    LMAO calling me casual? But you have Ortiz at the same level as Stiverne? ...what a fckin clown

                    why? Because ortiz beat jennings or because he beat cunningham? Lol. Or is it because he a fat plodding gasping old hype job?

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                    • bigjavi973
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                      #60
                      booooooooooooooooooomb
                      squuuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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