Comments Thread For: Daniel Jacobs: If Canelo Got a Draw - Then I Beat Golovkin!

[Diego Rodriguez]

Very close fight. Can't get GGG fans to admit it was a close fight. GGG was the one who faded late in this fight. But knowing HBO wasn't gonna let Jacobs ruin GGG-Canelo he should've stepped omit up more.

You can't get any GGG fans to admit the Jacobs fight was close? Most Golovkin fans that I've talked to know it was a close fight. I had it 115-112. I thought Golovkin won a close fight. Jacobs fought well and the margin between them wasn't huge. While I don't think Jacobs won it was tight.

I don't think HBO influenced the decision. I think the judges got it right. Jacobs fought well but he just didn't do enough. Now if they rematch it will be very interesting. I still seen him as the biggest threat to legit beat Golovkin.

I wish Jacobs would get back in the freakin ring.

[livershot73]

Come on, man..!! Seriously..OK?! You've got to know the difference between BOXING Intelligently and RUNNING. What De La Hoya did in the Trinidad fight...that was running. What Canelo did a couple of nights ago...that was boxing. Hit but don't get hit, remember?

Calm down, no need for the yelling,lol! I am NOT your enemy....anyways, but Canelo DID get hit...just read the stats. Now before/if you go, 'uh well, those stats don't matter to me, f- Compubox!' No, uh-uh, you want to get all technical on your perceived differences between running and "defensive boxing", then be technical ALL THE WAY and allow Compubox to come into play as well....

If i remember correctly, GGG was wobbled in the final seconds of either the 9th round or the 10th round. Hopefully, it's on YouTube already so you can check it out yourself.

I saw the fight live...If we're talking about the same instance, Canelo made a defensive move deflecting GGG's right arm in an upward motion and GGG lost his balance, IT WAS NOT from a punch, hence No Wobbling...

Nah, this wasn't close. This was COMPETITIVE. Canelo landed the cleaner, the more eye catching shots. GGG made it look closer that it really was with his aggression but was it really effective? Sorry, pal. The answer's NO.

well according to the outcome, it was effective enough because GGG is STILL CHAMP and I hate to break it to YOU pal but you're in the minority...online boxing polls, scorecards from former profesional boxing champs, boxing analysts and ringside press for the most part had it CLOSE for GGG...if you apply common sense, CLOSE = COMPETETIVE...a one sided fight (as you imply for Canelo) is NOT competetive by any standards. Therefore, you can't have both....

I'm not a professional judge but I know boxing and I ain't Adalaide Byrd. I scored it 115-113 for Canelo. That's 7 rounds to 5. At the end of the day, I valued his effectiveness more than GGG's aggression/ activity.

and I had it 115-113 the other way, GGG's aggression, activity(including punches landed) and overall ring generalship (he controlled the pace) was enough to win him the fight, he took Canelo's best shots and kept going after him and Canelo's response? Run Forrest, Run!...Canelo's mostly back pedaling and fighting in spurts for the most part? Nope, sorry...this is BOXING not Track & Field. Where was the "True Mexican Style" and KO Canelo himself predicted?...now, obviously you and I judge fights (or at least this one) differently, All Good, just a matter of preference...for the record, I have no qualms with the official draw verdict....

[FLY TY]

What a moron. For months he has been saying to anyone that will listen that he beat GGG. Now he says that he thinks GGG beat Canelo and in reaction to the scorecards Jacob's contradicts himself in a pretty funny manner by saying if Canelo got a draw then he beat GGG. So Jacob's is admitting that he lost to GGG contradicting what he has been claiming for months. He thinks the Canelo GGG scorecards were wrong, unfair, and due to politics. He makes no sense. If Canelo got a draw then he beat GGG. I guess he does not realize he is admitting he lost to GGG.

BTW, Canelo actually landed many punches on GGG especially a lot of body punches. Jacobs did not land any meaningful punches in the GGG fight, his defense was good, but he forgot to add in an offense that night.

I thought Jacobs gave GGG too much respect, all night long. It's tough to beat a champ that way, and I agree, Golovkin landed the meaningful punches for the most part.

I had Jacobs winning that fight too and I had Canelo 7-5. GGG was hit ALOT in both fights and clean. He also for the first time lost the battle of power shots outlanded by both Canelo and Jacobs in back to back fights. Also was outlanded in power shots by brook until the final round. He hasn't looked good in either of his last 3 fights and get's hit too much and too cleanly. But canelo did something neither Jacobs or Brook did and that's make him miss badly all night. Stop making excuses for GGG he's not what you guys hyped him to be and will lose the rematch as well more convincingly

I'll leave Brook out, because he ended up quitting. But you left out another HUGE difference. Jacobs was actually put down by GGG. Canelo was never even hurt. A knockdown changes a lot of perceptions. At the very least, it gave GGG an extra point on the scorecards.

Close fight, it may have been, but it would've been very hard to see Jacobs winning that fight after getting KD, unless he dominated...which he didn't.

[redmyth79]

Jacobs did better than Canelo. That's for sure.

I dont agree. Most of you all are trying to say GGG controlled agression which stands up if he was effective. Also a lot on here say Canelo ran. BS!!!! Canelo landed the cleaner harder shots 9 out of 12 rounds. He did not run he slipped GGG's punches. If it was Mayweather in there that did the same thing it would have been 9-3 but because everybody is used to Canelo beating down his opponents
The judges nor you GGG fanatics
Saw his defence as a weapon as if it was Mayweather it is. Slaping jabs does not win a fight. Canelo's defence was awesome and he countered most of the time backing GGG up ever time he went at GGG.
I watched it live and had it a draw giving 1-3 and 10-12 to Canelo making it a draw. After rewatching it and seeing what Canelo was really doing I rescored my opinion to 9-3 Canelo! Or 8-4. But if anybody got robbed ot was Canelo.
Just because you expect him to braw is dumb for any boxer. Especially with a fighter like GGG. The out landed punches were only jabs!! Check the punch stats. The 1st three rounds Canelo walked GGG then he switched games to play counter and let GGG miss. I truly only saw GGG land maybe 5 good not great shots. I saw Canelo land 50+ hard shots and a few great. I do think Canelo needed to throw punches when he sat on the ropes instead of dodging 98% of what GGG threw.
To all making excuses GGG didnt age and I made that statement before the fight that I didnt want to hear about GGG aging. Canelo made GGG fight Canelo's fight. GGG threw straight punches and jabs because Canelo's defence was that good. He learned part of that defence from his fight with Floyd. So again effective aggression is coming foward landing shots. Hell Canelo sat on ropes and begged him to come in. LOL. GGG said he wanted a mexican fight but Canelo sat on the ropes several rounds allowing GGG to try and do something but he was unable to. Thats not effective aggression but superb defence. That does not win rounds! If that fight was fought 100% same but mayweather instead of Canelo it would have been the scores I said and nobody would be *****ing.
I like both fighters equal so im not taking sides. Yes Canelo should have let his hands do more as each time GGG didnt anwser when Canelo punched but on clean power and defence Canelo won.
Like I said I scored it a draw before the cards came out but rewatching it Canelo played more of a mayweather style fight. Boxing is hot and dont get hit. Its not like GGG didnt try as he threw over 700+punches but landed maybe 10 shots that had any meaning and at a 25-28% of total. Canelo beat him at power shots and threw 200 fewer punches. I do believe Canelo didnt show great stamina or he wanted a draw one because anytime he wanted GGG he pretty much had him. GGG landed over 100+ jabs. This is not amateur boxing and his jabs made the only difference in punch stat.
Just think about this. When Canelo was on ropes which he did several rounds GGG new he couldnt hit hi with bombs so he slap jabed for points. I mean my 16 year son could eat those jabs. Not being funny but that was not the snap your head back jabs GGG threw on other opponents. They where like touch you jabs. But GGG knew after the 1st 3 rounds he couldnt fight like a brawler and went to trying to box very tight and clean but still got counteted.
Who has seen GGG fight more like a boxer then a slugger? People need to rewatch and see #1 Canelo's defence and #2 GGG try to box Canelo.

[T-1000]

Jacobs is becoming irrelevant quickly. Get over your loss. Get back in the ring and stop whining.

[UNBIASED BOXING]

Very close fight. Can't get GGG fans to admit it was a close fight. GGG was the one who faded late in this fight. But knowing HBO wasn't gonna let Jacobs ruin GGG-Canelo he should've stepped omit up more.

Not true. I had Golovkin winning by 1 or 2 rounds. Most of us agree it was close, but the fact is, the majority of viewers saw Golovkin winning.

I don't think GGG faded as much as you think, Canelo just started pushing it harder. Just look at the final 10 seconds of the last round, Canelo seemed super tired while Golovkin was coming out hard.

[redmyth79]

Calm down, no need for the yelling,lol! I am NOT your enemy....anyways, but Canelo DID get hit...just read the stats. Now before/if you go, 'uh well, those stats don't matter to me, f- Compubox!' No, uh-uh, you want to get all technical on your perceived differences between running and "defensive boxing", then be technical ALL THE WAY and allow Compubox to come into play as well....


I saw the fight live...If we're talking about the same instance, Canelo made a defensive move deflecting GGG's right arm in an upward motion and GGG lost his balance, IT WAS NOT from a punch, hence No Wobbling...

well according to the outcome, it was effective enough because GGG is STILL CHAMP and I hate to break it to YOU pal but you're in the minority...online boxing polls, scorecards from former profesional boxing champs, boxing analysts and ringside press for the most part had it CLOSE for GGG...if you apply common sense, CLOSE = COMPETETIVE...a one sided fight (as you imply for Canelo) is NOT competetive by any standards. Therefore, you can't have both....
and I had it 115-113 the other way, GGG's aggression, activity(including punches landed) and overall ring generalship (he controlled the pace) was enough to win him the fight, he took Canelo's best shots and kept going after him and Canelo's response? Run Forrest, Run!...Canelo's mostly back pedaling and fighting in spurts for the most part? Nope, sorry...this is BOXING not Track & Field. Where was the "True Mexican Style" and KO Canelo himself predicted?...now, obviously you and I judge fights (or at least this one) differently, All Good, just a matter of preference...for the record, I have no qualms with the official draw verdict....

Lmao. Canelo never ran!!! Your a idiot to think that. Hell he wavied GGG to the ropes yet GGG was hesitant. Canelo got on the ropes a lot because he felt comfortable. When GGG had him there is where you say the punch stats show but what I saw was when on the roes GGG landed jabs only and they were feeling out or distance style jabs. They had no power or meaning behind them. Truth be told this is not amateur boxing and that touch you with a jab **** was BS. But at the same time he might have landed 2 or 3 rights the whole fight lol. I can count on one hand the meaningful punches threw 12 that GGG landed.
For your running comment its to hit and not be hit but Canelo never ran. He slipped punches and dodged them well but if you claim he ran whats the excuse when GGG had him on the ropes. He only threw ****ty jabs. Nothing meaningful at anytime on the roes and Canelo was happy on the ropes and when Canelo did unch GGG did back up 99% of the time. Hell he backed up off Canelo on the ropes because he didnt want to get countered.
Here is one more thing. GGG was suppose to be a monster yet the monster was back peddling the 1st 3 rounds till Canelo switched styles in the 4th. I watched GGG jump back at least 5 feet one time trying to avoid a Canelo counter. Rewatch the Lara fight with Canelo. Thats running. I like GGG and Canelo the same and a lot. But I call it how it is. I have been around long enough to watch a sugar ray Leonard fight Reberto Duran. Ive seen Miguel Cotto sense his first tv apperence and he was 6-0. Watched Floyd sence he started. Oscar was the man back then.
And whoever made the comment on Oscar running. That was 100% corner as they said to as the fight was in the bag and it should have been. Oscar won min 8 out of 12 and the losing rounds was because very bad cornering advice. He fired them all after that!! To this date I will never call Oscar the loser as judges were paid as was maybe byrd. I couldnt give Canelo 10 but 8 or 9 easily. After watching enough Mayweather fights which mayweather did way worse then Canelo and the cards would come back 120 to 108 or 119 to 109. Canelo proved he can probably out box anybody in his class or at 154 with rather ease.
Rematch will be bad for GGG as its 7months away and Canelo gets better and GGG's last hoorah was last Sat. Canelo will fight with more intensity and GGG will be the same or start aging after a tuff fight with Jacobs which I gave Jacobs the nod by a round and this fight with Canelo truy frustrated GGG and took more out of him then you think.
GGG talked mexican style but Canelo sat on ropes it was there for GGG to cap on. regardless of GGG's preasure it was not effective. And GGG was timid at times. That no boxer has done to GGG. But Canelo learns every fight and GGG can box or slug he chose to box because Canelo was way to sharp for those winding punches ggg has had luck with others.
If you dont believe me rewatch it. GGG fought a good boxing match against a better counter power punch boxer. AGAIN GGG WAS OUT OF HIS GAME PLAN IF YOU REWATCH IT!!! Watch all GGG's fights then watch GGG vs CANELO last!!!

[redmyth79]

Jacobs is becoming irrelevant quickly. Get over your loss. Get back in the ring and stop whining.

I had Jacobs beating GGG by a round min. Would have been more but he did have a 10-8 round getting knocked down.
He needs to match up with Charlo. I put my money on Jacobs long as he fights like he did GGG but with more commitment with his shots. Then fight the winner of Canelo/GGG fight which will be Canelo.

[landotter]

Jacobs did better than Canelo. That's for sure.

Jacobs fought a great fight. He is in my P4P list. The dude is a stud.

[redmyth79]

Wait Jacobs in a lot of minds ALREADY beat GGG and are demanding a rematch but you are calling for Canelo to fight Jacobs instead of GGG? WTF What you so scared about? GGG owes multiple rematches. If he don't fight Canelo next make no mistake about it he HAS to fight Jacobs again. I had him losing both fights the first time anyway.

As did I.when i watched Canelo vs GGG live i scored it a draw. But I rewatched it the next morning and looked at anyway to give GGG a better score sense everybody was *****ing and saying robbery. Well after watching it I rescored it 9-3 or at worst 8-4 for Canelo. Ring generalship is when the aggressor is effective as well but Canelo beat that on defence alone and clearly landed the harder more meaningful shots. He could have icked up his punch output in the middle rounds but he still won and will dominate the rematch.