Comments Thread For: Daniel Jacobs: If Canelo Got a Draw - Then I Beat Golovkin!

[Diego Rodriguez]

Your a fool to think Canelo ran. I like both GGG and Canelo but call it for what it was. Canelo sat on ropes in multiple rounds giving g a chance but he couldnt. For one GGG was scared of Canelo's counter. I dont care what you think but thats the most timid ive even seen GGG fwith somebody on the ropes. Canelo is #1 to slow on his feet to run!!- He is great with head and upperbody movement. He slipped GGG's punches. Hell he pushed GGG back the 1st 3 rounds. Lol. Watch a Lara fight if you want to see running.

He wasn't giving g a chance, he was resting. Golovkin put him in that position. He wasn't consistently pushing Golovkin back but he was holding his ground and taking and giving. As he could no longer do that, for whatever reason, he went back to the ropes.

Canelo's D was excellent. IMO he didn't lose that fight (as I see it) because of D but because of his lack of consistent offensive output. This was more of 13-10 football game than a high scoring affair. Looked like both guys would score a lot but in the end far more misses than hits.

[WayTooCasual]

Check how round 7 was scored.. On that draw card. Byrd's card wasn't the only controversy.

[TrueBox]

Calm down, no need for the yelling,lol! I am NOT your enemy....anyways, but Canelo DID get hit...just read the stats. Now before/if you go, 'uh well, those stats don't matter to me, f- Compubox!' No, uh-uh, you want to get all technical on your perceived differences between running and "defensive boxing", then be technical ALL THE WAY and allow Compubox to come into play as well....


I saw the fight live...If we're talking about the same instance, Canelo made a defensive move deflecting GGG's right arm in an upward motion and GGG lost his balance, IT WAS NOT from a punch, hence No Wobbling...

well according to the outcome, it was effective enough because GGG is STILL CHAMP and I hate to break it to YOU pal but you're in the minority...online boxing polls, scorecards from former profesional boxing champs, boxing analysts and ringside press for the most part had it CLOSE for GGG...if you apply common sense, CLOSE = COMPETETIVE...a one sided fight (as you imply for Canelo) is NOT competetive by any standards. Therefore, you can't have both....
and I had it 115-113 the other way, GGG's aggression, activity(including punches landed) and overall ring generalship (he controlled the pace) was enough to win him the fight, he took Canelo's best shots and kept going after him and Canelo's response? Run Forrest, Run!...Canelo's mostly back pedaling and fighting in spurts for the most part? Nope, sorry...this is BOXING not Track & Field. Where was the "True Mexican Style" and KO Canelo himself predicted?...now, obviously you and I judge fights (or at least this one) differently, All Good, just a matter of preference...for the record, I have no qualms with the official draw verdict....

I AM calm, mi amigo but come on now.. GGG looked confused at times. Where was his explosiveness? I didn't see the GGG that walked through his previous opponents. His aggression wasn't effective. Proof? Canelo made it out of the fight ALIVE & WELL. Didn't even go down like D.J did.

The difference between Boxing and Running is clear as day. It's black and white. It ain't grey or difficult to differentiate. Remember what De La Hoya did in the last 3 rounds of the Trinidad fight? That's RUNNING. Remember what Lara did in the Canelo fight not that long ago? That's RUNNING.

Boxing is what Money May did Vs. Canelo. Brilliant display of boxing intelligently, wasn't it? Or what Timmy Bradley did Vs. JuanMa Marquez. That's BOXING.

As for Compubox stats, I'm not going to trash it, man. I think it's cool boxing has it but at the end of the day, Canelo landed the more telling blows and that fact alone should have been enough for him to get his hands raised. After all, this is professional boxing.

I know I'm in the minority but I'm, at least, objective. Canelo being a privileged fighter is hated by many. That's why more fans were on GGG's side on fight night. Most fans aren't objective.

Close & Competitive aren't the same to me. A guy can be a pain in the azz for his opponent for 12 rounds and lose 10 of them on the scorecards coz' his aggression isn't effective enough. Just like what happened in De La Hoya Vs. Money May. The former created problems for the latter with his aggression, activity & size but they were all neutralized. Competitive? Yes. Close? No.

Let's just hope these two tango again sometime next year coz' as a fan, I don't want another controversy a la Pacquiao-Marquez.

[livershot73]

Lmao. Canelo never ran!!! Your a idiot to think that. Hell he wavied GGG to the ropes yet GGG was hesitant. Canelo got on the ropes a lot because he felt comfortable. When GGG had him there is where you say the punch stats show but what I saw was when on the roes GGG landed jabs only and they were feeling out or distance style jabs. They had no power or meaning behind them. Truth be told this is not amateur boxing and that touch you with a jab **** was BS. But at the same time he might have landed 2 or 3 rights the whole fight lol. I can count on one hand the meaningful punches threw 12 that GGG landed.
For your running comment its to hit and not be hit but Canelo never ran. He slipped punches and dodged them well but if you claim he ran whats the excuse when GGG had him on the ropes. He only threw ****ty jabs. Nothing meaningful at anytime on the roes and Canelo was happy on the ropes and when Canelo did unch GGG did back up 99% of the time. Hell he backed up off Canelo on the ropes because he didnt want to get countered.
Here is one more thing. GGG was suppose to be a monster yet the monster was back peddling the 1st 3 rounds till Canelo switched styles in the 4th. I watched GGG jump back at least 5 feet one time trying to avoid a Canelo counter. Rewatch the Lara fight with Canelo. Thats running. I like GGG and Canelo the same and a lot. But I call it how it is. I have been around long enough to watch a sugar ray Leonard fight Reberto Duran. Ive seen Miguel Cotto sense his first tv apperence and he was 6-0. Watched Floyd sence he started. Oscar was the man back then.
And whoever made the comment on Oscar running. That was 100% corner as they said to as the fight was in the bag and it should have been. Oscar won min 8 out of 12 and the losing rounds was because very bad cornering advice. He fired them all after that!! To this date I will never call Oscar the loser as judges were paid as was maybe byrd. I couldnt give Canelo 10 but 8 or 9 easily. After watching enough Mayweather fights which mayweather did way worse then Canelo and the cards would come back 120 to 108 or 119 to 109. Canelo proved he can probably out box anybody in his class or at 154 with rather ease.
Rematch will be bad for GGG as its 7months away and Canelo gets better and GGG's last hoorah was last Sat. Canelo will fight with more intensity and GGG will be the same or start aging after a tuff fight with Jacobs which I gave Jacobs the nod by a round and this fight with Canelo truy frustrated GGG and took more out of him then you think.
GGG talked mexican style but Canelo sat on ropes it was there for GGG to cap on. regardless of GGG's preasure it was not effective. And GGG was timid at times. That no boxer has done to GGG. But Canelo learns every fight and GGG can box or slug he chose to box because Canelo was way to sharp for those winding punches ggg has had luck with others.
If you dont believe me rewatch it. GGG fought a good boxing match against a better counter power punch boxer. AGAIN GGG WAS OUT OF HIS GAME PLAN IF YOU REWATCH IT!!! Watch all GGG's fights then watch GGG vs CANELO last!!!

I enjoy getting into healthy boxing debates because I love this sport, but when someone starts off their POV by name-calling just because I don't agree with said POV, it pretty much f u c k s things up and to me, does not merit a response

[Motorcity Cobra]

Not true. I had Golovkin winning by 1 or 2 rounds. Most of us agree it was close, but the fact is, the majority of viewers saw Golovkin winning.

I don't think GGG faded as much as you think, Canelo just started pushing it harder. Just look at the final 10 seconds of the last round, Canelo seemed super tired while Golovkin was coming out hard.

GGG faded against Jacobs. That was not a clear win for GGG.

[livershot73]

I AM calm, mi amigo but come on now.. GGG looked confused at times. Where was his explosiveness? I didn't see the GGG that walked through his previous opponents. His aggression wasn't effective. Proof? Canelo made it out of the fight ALIVE & WELL. Didn't even go down like D.J did.

GGG didn't look himself, I'll admit that...was it nerves? Maybe. Age? Possibly. The Step up in competetition? Probably. A combination of the 3? Not out of the question at all. Then Round 5 started, now I wouldn't use the word "confused", I think "careful" is more accurate....Now, where was the guaranteed KO Canelo himself predicted? GGG took Canelo's best shots and never stopped coming after him. Where was Canelo's power? I didn't see the Canelo that steamrolled past previous opponents and please note, GGG came out ALIVE & WELL himself.

The difference between Boxing and Running is clear as day. It's black and white. It ain't grey or difficult to differentiate. Remember what De La Hoya did in the last 3 rounds of the Trinidad fight? That's RUNNING. Remember what Lara did in the Canelo fight not that long ago? That's RUNNING.

Oh wait, so NOW Lara RAN...ok, how come back then, many fans thought he "out boxed" Canelo and even say that Canelo lost that one but was given a gift? A lot of people accused Floyd (even Canelo HIMSELF in the post fight interview of I recall correctly) of running in their fight.

Boxing is what Money May did Vs. Canelo. Brilliant display of boxing intelligently, wasn't it? Or what Timmy Bradley did Vs. JuanMa Marquez. That's BOXING.

I don't recall Bradley/ Marquez too clearly, I'd have to watch again....but I do agree with you regarding Floyd/Canelo. From what I recall, Floyd used Canelo's aggression against him (Floyd being Floyd) BUT he ALSO outlanded him overall...Canelo, however, was unable to deter GGG and did not outland him overall.

As for Compubox stats, I'm not going to trash it, man. I think it's cool boxing has it but at the end of the day, Canelo landed the more telling blows and that fact alone should have been enough for him to get his hands raised. After all, this is professional boxing.

I disagree, you know why? Canelo's "more telling" blows, had No Effect on GGG maybe because he didn't throw/land enough...because of his inconsistency, Canelo did not dictate the pace, GGG did by always pressing him...now, both landed, both missed...but I feel GGG had better ring generalship overall. Again, these are just our preferences...

I know I'm in the minority but I'm, at least, objective. Canelo being a privileged fighter is hated by many. That's why more fans were on GGG's side on fight night. Most fans aren't objective.

I am objective as well and I am the first to give Canelo his props for making it 12 rounds with GGG...did he abide by his prediction of HOW he was going to fight and KO his opponent? No. And for the record, I don't hate Canelo, even though lately he's been acting like a spoiled little puta, but I'll blame GBP for that, lol...In all seriousness, I respect all boxers, they make a lot of sacrifices to train only to step through those ropes to risk their lives for our entertainment and THAT, amigo, TAKES COJONES.

Close & Competitive aren't the same to me. A guy can be a pain in the azz for his opponent for 12 rounds and lose 10 of them on the scorecards coz' his aggression isn't effective enough. Just like what happened in De La Hoya Vs. Money May. The former created problems for the latter with his aggression, activity & size but they were all neutralized. Competitive? Yes. Close? No.

bro, What was working for DLH in that fight was THE JAB, remember? Then in RD 5, he abandoned it because who knows why. Hell, even he regrets doing so when asked about it now. (All this can be looked up) Had he kept firing that jab to maybe set up more combos, who knows? But hey, woulda, coulda, shoulda....

Let's just hope these two tango again sometime next year coz' as a fan, I don't want another controversy a la Pacquiao-Marquez.

I hope they do it in May! Canelo said in the ring he wanted an immediate rematch, let's hope he keeps his word and that his team supports their fighter...for the record and from a PURE boxing perspective, I feel the rematch favors Canelo if he makes the proper adjustments plus he is the younger fighter after all. Now, GGG did say in the post fight interview that he has a few ideas on what he needs to change for the rematch....if that's the case and Canelo makes adjustments as well, then the rematch could be EVEN BETTER! S h i t, I won't complain no matter who wins fair & square!

And here's to Mrs. Byrd switching over to judge underwater basket weaving competitions or something OTHER than boxing from now on!

[OmarRueben]

NY Judge Trella had GGG beating Jacobs, not sure if the Garden would make a difference...

It will be hard for a communist like GGG to win any decision in America. Kovalev found that out also. Face it as America hates all Communists like ggg.

[Lester Tutor]

It will be hard for a communist like GGG to win any decision in America. Kovalev found that out also. Face it as America hates all Communists like ggg.

You the CPK? The Communist Party of Kazakhstan?

[OmarRueben]

You the CPK? The Communist Party of Kazakhstan?

I just hate all Communists and worthless others from Russia and all those ****** broke Stan countries that are jokes. Boxing in America does not need those commies and russia related scum bags. Get Out

[TrueBox]

GGG didn't look himself, I'll admit that...was it nerves? Maybe. Age? Possibly. The Step up in competetition? Probably. A combination of the 3? Not out of the question at all. Then Round 5 started, now I wouldn't use the word "confused", I think "careful" is more accurate....Now, where was the guaranteed KO Canelo himself predicted? GGG took Canelo's best shots and never stopped coming after him. Where was Canelo's power? I didn't see the Canelo that steamrolled past previous opponents and please note, GGG came out ALIVE & WELL himself.



Oh wait, so NOW Lara RAN...ok, how come back then, many fans thought he "out boxed" Canelo and even say that Canelo lost that one but was given a gift? A lot of people accused Floyd (even Canelo HIMSELF in the post fight interview of I recall correctly) of running in their fight.



I don't recall Bradley/ Marquez too clearly, I'd have to watch again....but I do agree with you regarding Floyd/Canelo. From what I recall, Floyd used Canelo's aggression against him (Floyd being Floyd) BUT he ALSO outlanded him overall...Canelo, however, was unable to deter GGG and did not outland him overall.



I disagree, you know why? Canelo's "more telling" blows, had No Effect on GGG maybe because he didn't throw/land enough...because of his inconsistency, Canelo did not dictate the pace, GGG did by always pressing him...now, both landed, both missed...but I feel GGG had better ring generalship overall. Again, these are just our preferences...



I am objective as well and I am the first to give Canelo his props for making it 12 rounds with GGG...did he abide by his prediction of HOW he was going to fight and KO his opponent? No. And for the record, I don't hate Canelo, even though lately he's been acting like a spoiled little puta, but I'll blame GBP for that, lol...In all seriousness, I respect all boxers, they make a lot of sacrifices to train only to step through those ropes to risk their lives for our entertainment and THAT, amigo, TAKES COJONES.

bro, What was working for DLH in that fight was THE JAB, remember? Then in RD 5, he abandoned it because who knows why. Hell, even he regrets doing so when asked about it now. (All this can be looked up) Had he kept firing that jab to maybe set up more combos, who knows? But hey, woulda, coulda, shoulda....



I hope they do it in May! Canelo said in the ring he wanted an immediate rematch, let's hope he keeps his word and that his team supports their fighter...for the record and from a PURE boxing perspective, I feel the rematch favors Canelo if he makes the proper adjustments plus he is the younger fighter after all. Now, GGG did say in the post fight interview that he has a few ideas on what he needs to change for the rematch....if that's the case and Canelo makes adjustments as well, then the rematch could be EVEN BETTER! S h i t, I won't complain no matter who wins fair & square!

And here's to Mrs. Byrd switching over to judge underwater basket weaving competitions or something OTHER than boxing from now on!

No way, man. I just re-watched it some 24 hours ago and GGG looked confused as in he didn't really know what to do. He was probably thinking to himself, "Damn, where's my easy work?". This was supposed to be another day at the office for GGG.

Canelo won because he conquered his fears (I highly doubt he ever feared GGG. His boss didn't give him the greenlight before) and silenced his doubters by making his boogeyman look ordinary. Remember when he dared GGG on the ropes? I guess that's not "Mexican" enough for the naysayers, huh?

As for his promise to K.O GGG, it's professional boxing !! Nothing's wrong with saying certain things to sell tickets. The pressure to score a K.O win was on his boogeyman anyway.

Many fans aren't boxing fans. They're either lovers or haters of boxers. For the record...YES, Lara RAN. He wasn't boxing. What he did that night was moronic. I wanted to puke !! So, I ain't one of them (lovers & haters of boxers) who thought Lara outboxed Canelo, OK?! Oh..hell no !!!

I don't know for a fact who landed more punches but I know for a fact who landed the cleaner, more eye-catching punches. You know, punches that made the crowd say, ooh...ahh... The more telling blows, brah. The **** FOR YOUR BUCKS. Thanks to Canelo, the fight wasn't a letdown.


These two took each others's best shots and none of them went down. So, the same thing can be said about GGG's effectiveness on Canelo. Power wise. Nobody really dictated the pace coz I don't remember any of them being rag-dolled.

Dead even match up, this one was !! The difference? The telling blows thrown & landed by Canelo. They made an impression on me. One incompetent judge ruined everything with the ridiculous 118-110 scorecard. If wasn't for that travesty, there wouldn't have been any controversy.

Believe it or not, I wasn't rooting for anybody in this fight coz' I like both guys a lot. Didn't want to see a K.O, didn't even want to see a knockdown. I just wanted to see a good action fight. I'm still pissed beyond belief the right man wasn't awarded a win.

I'm passionate about boxing & I'm still scratching my head, wondering what they should have done more/ better to win. Yeah, this was the De La Hoya-Money May situation all over again. They must've stopped doing what was working for them at a point and it cost them a win.

Yeah, it looks like Canelo has a greater chance of getting better in the rematch. I'll be rooting for that son of a gun in the rematch. I wasn't a fan before but I am now. It's a matter of taste, brah. I love intelligent boxers and LARA ain't intelligent. So, please don't mention his name again to me.

I'll see you in the rematch, Caballero. I got Canelo, you got GGG. May the best man win.