Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Canelo vs. Golovkin Post-Fight Mania

[aboutfkntime]

Martinez and Cotto deserve more respect

no way had Golovkin earned the right to step in front of Cotto, for Martinez

and no way had Golovkin earned the right to step in front of Canelo, for Cotto

so, no way do fans have the right to disrespect Martinez and Cotto..... both LOST before those fights were due, to guys who are arguably better than Golovkin

both of those guys would fight anyone, fans are ******ed

[aboutfkntime]

could Golovkin have beaten a prime/fit Martinez ?

really ?

coz, dang..... that dude was goooood

good fight

possibly a great fight

I bet some of you aren't quite as sure now, after you choked on your donuts during the Jacobs/Canelo fights ahaha

[Citizen Koba]

I would just about bet my life that IF Cotto had beaten Canelo, he would have fought Golovkin at catchweight

no... question... at all

would you bet your life that Mr "anyone from 154-168" finally backed up all of that shht talk and fight Cotto at 157, a weight he made a couple of fights earlier?

didn't think so

read the quote from Golovkin in my reply to Onepunch







what changed in a year..... ?

come on man, you are also smarter than that

Ummm. If Cotto had beaten Canelo, then yes, I think there's a good chance he would have fought Golovkin... however there was no way that he was fighting Golovkin before he fought Canelo... cos that woulda been ******.

Do I think Golovkin woulda fought Cotto at 157? Yes. I'm pretty sure he would, whatever BS Abel had to say.

Bet my life? Stop being a drama queen.

[aboutfkntime]

Ummm. If Cotto had beaten Canelo, then yes, I think there's a good chance he would have fought Golovkin... however there was no way that he was fighting Golovkin before he fought Canelo... cos that woulda been ******.

Do I think Golovkin woulda fought Cotto at 157? Yes. I'm pretty sure he would, whatever BS Abel had to say.

Bet my life? Stop being a drama queen.

" pretty sure "..... ?

yea, uh..... I don't believe you

he refused to drop one single pound for Canelo/Cotto

I don't think you would bet on that happening

all I have said, is that Cotto/Martinez both deserve more respect..... and the tards who insinuate that Cotto ducked Golovkin..... when Golovkin refused to lift a finger to make that fight happen..... are very "special" indeed

you know what I am saying, and you know that I am right

regarding the post I attached..... what changed in a year ?

[Citizen Koba]

" pretty sure "..... ?

yea, uh..... I don't believe you

he refused to drop one single pound for Canelo/Cotto

I don't think you would bet on that happening

all I have said, is that Cotto/Martinez both deserve more respect..... and the tards who insinuate that Cotto ducked Golovkin..... when Golovkin refused to lift a finger to make that fight happen..... are very "special" indeed

you know what I am saying, and you know that I am right

regarding the post I attached..... what changed in a year ?

Ah. Whatever, man. I think you've spent so long repeating the same point of view that you've lost touch, but honestly I can't be bothered repeating the same old arguments. Suffice to say that Golovkin would have been ****** not to take the Cotto fight at 157 if Cotto had beaten Canelo. I think we can agree on that. Of course if you think Golovkin hates money and was certain Cotto would beat him you might disagree, but I think we've established in previous discussions that Golovkin is at the very least a capable fighter and makes pretty much the same risk / reward calculations as any other boxer, so unless you changed your mind...?

You gonna stop peddling that BS about it being Golovkin's fault the Cotto fight didn't happen, btw?

http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_...-alvarez-fight

"The World Boxing Council worked tirelessly through a process that began over two years ago to secure the celebration of the highly anticipated fight between Miguel Cotto and Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez. The WBC is proud of that accomplishment that is giving boxing fans around the world a very important fight to see," the WBC said in a statement.

[aboutfkntime]

Ah. Whatever, man. I think you've spent so long repeating the same point of view that you've lost touch, but honestly I can't be bothered repeating the same old arguments. Suffice to say that Golovkin would have been ****** not to take the Cotto fight at 157 if Cotto had beaten Canelo. I think we can agree on that. Of course if you think Golovkin hates money and was certain Cotto would beat him you might disagree, but I think we've established in previous discussions that Golovkin is at the very least a capable fighter and makes pretty much the same risk / reward calculations as any other boxer, so unless you changed your mind...?

You gonna stop peddling that BS about it being Golovkin's fault the Cotto fight didn't happen, btw?

http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_...-alvarez-fight

"The World Boxing Council worked tirelessly through a process that began over two years ago to secure the celebration of the highly anticipated fight between Miguel Cotto and Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez. The WBC is proud of that accomplishment that is giving boxing fans around the world a very important fight to see," the WBC said in a statement.

" the same "..... ?

nah man, any other fighter from 147-160 would cut off one of their fingers for an opportunity like that

like I asked you..... what changed in a year..... ?

you saw the quotes

Gennady Golovkin is the most " well-managed " fighter since Pacquiao

we may disagree on what " well-managed " means


btw, nobody is campaigning that Golovkin ducked Cotto

I am replying to ***wit's who accused Cotto of ducking Golovkin

big diff there

just as well, because nobody else stepped up to correct them

getting really sick of that dribble

[The D3vil]

If Mr " anyone from 154-168 "..... " truly wanted it ", with Miguel Cotto..... he would not have refused to negotiate on weight with the 153lb superstar..... and he would not have accepted step-aside money

you guys have been churning out excuses since the exact moment in time that Golovkin stepped up in class

wow, what a coincidence

good on ya

Why would the universally accepted Middleweight champion need to negotiate with anybody about anything?

It'd be like Marvin Hagler having to negotiate with Sugar Ray Leonard about weight to fight for HIS own championship. The champion's not obligated to submit to people who want his title.

YOu GGG haters are ridiculous.

He's been the guy at 160 for 5 years. He's fought and beat everybody that would fight him at 160, which is all that he was obligated to do. He never made outlandish requests of his opponents. All he asked them to do was to fight him at the weight that he was the champion at for a fair wage.

[aboutfkntime]

Why would the universally accepted Middleweight champion need to negotiate with anybody about anything?

It'd be like Marvin Hagler having to negotiate with Sugar Ray Leonard about weight to fight for HIS own championship. The champion's not obligated to submit to people who want his title.

YOu GGG haters are ridiculous.

He's been the guy at 160 for 5 years. He's fought and beat everybody that would fight him at 160, which is all that he was obligated to do. He never made outlandish requests of his opponents. All he asked them to do was to fight him at the weight that he was the champion at for a fair wage.

1) to finally land himself a huge fight ?

2) to gain some desperately-needed exposure, which would have helped him at the negotiating table with Oscar?

3) to start to turn his ordinary resume into a legacy ?

4) to prove to his doubters that all that "154-168" crap wasn't just hype/marketing


it is amazing that those reasons were not good enough to make Gennady want to fight



edit: oh nearly forgot..... to make life-changing that would setup his kids for life

[The D3vil]

1) to finally land himself a huge fight ?

2) to gain some desperately-needed exposure, which would have helped him at the negotiating table with Oscar?

3) to start to turn his ordinary resume into a legacy ?

4) to prove to his doubters that all that "154-168" crap wasn't just hype/marketing


it is amazing that those reasons were not good enough to make Gennady want to fight



edit: oh nearly forgot..... to make life-changing that would setup his kids for life

All of those things would've been great things to do.

But he was not obligated to do any of that.

He was the middleweight champion of the world. That was his only obligation to the sport of boxing. He did that.

He didn't stop anybody from getting a crack at the 160 title who wanted it.

All that other **** is extra.

His resume isn't ordinary to me, because it's not his fault that nobody in his weight class wanted to fight him.

[aboutfkntime]

All of those things would've been great things to do.

But he was not obligated to do any of that.

He was the middleweight champion of the world. That was his only obligation to the sport of boxing. He did that.

He didn't stop anybody from getting a crack at the 160 title who wanted it.

All that other **** is extra.

His resume isn't ordinary to me, because it's not his fault that nobody in his weight class wanted to fight him.

yep, Golovkin had no concern with legacy

just tip-toeing through the tulips, in a weak middleweight era

when he ran around for FIVE YEARS saying "anyone from 154-168", who did you think he meant?

we thought that he meant Cotto, if he was ever lucky enough to be in that position

FACT: Cotto was his best possible payday at that point

so, who did you think he meant ?