Comments Thread For: Golovkin-Canelo and The Predictable Controversy

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  • Mammoth
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    #31
    Rold being weak. Said Jacobs won against GGG but trying to give Canelo the absolute benefit of the doubt and saying a draw is possible. Stick to your guns or shut up...
    Last edited by Mammoth; 09-18-2017, 10:36 AM.

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    • CLUBBER!
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      #32
      Follow the money. Watch for an extra large deposit in Byrd's bank account, then you know what the deal is.

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      • HarvardBlue
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        #33
        Originally posted by JoeKidd
        Why do all keep justifying the scorecards by claiming the fight was "CLOSE"? What is a CLOSE fight these days????? Because competitive fights are so rare these days, everyone now regards a competitive fight as a CLOSE fight. Canelo fought in spurts. He LOST. Nothing close about this fight. He fought in spurts because he was saving energy for those fleeting moments. GGG pressed him all night and made him run like a b*tch. But GGG was never going to win a decision in Las Vegas. We all knew this.
        I totally agree. Golovkin wasn't necessarily dominant but he CLEARLY WON. It's like people are judging Canelo and Golovkin on two separate criteria. The one or two shots Canelo landed looked good but Golovkin landed 6 or 8. So what if he missed a few, he still landed more. Canelo spent the middle rounds with his back on the ropes.

        I'm not even a fan of Golovkin and hate being put in the position having to defend him but fair is fair. He won and anything less than is a plain robbery.

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        • petegrif
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          #34
          Here's what nobody is yet talking about.

          YES that scorecard was outrageous.

          YES Golovkin won.

          YES it was close

          YES Canelo can hold his head up - he is now a proven elite MW

          YES this kind of scoring bull**** cheapens the sport

          BUT there's more

          Real people bet real money on this fight. And real people lost a lot of their real money. Those people were cheated. I don't know if it was criminal. I do know that boxing and crime were enmeshed for a very long time. People were cheated back then, and they are still being cheated now.

          I don't know when there was the last criminal investigation of fight fixing. But we have had so many crazy decisions lately, in which people who bet were cheated, that I do think it is time for a serious investigation.

          You can't have a sport, an event, a game in which the result determines the outcome of bets but nobody can have any confidence in the fairness of the result.
          Last edited by petegrif; 09-18-2017, 12:03 PM.

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          • petegrif
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            #35
            in every major Canelo contest there is some form of extreme judging;

            Lara we had a 117–111
            Trout 118-109 Stanley Christodoulou
            Cotto one judge scored zero rounds to Cotto 119 109
            GGG. 118 110 Byrd

            This is pretty crazy because this kind of wide margin is a total domination but I didn't see that and neither didn't anyone else who wasn't smoking crack.

            Then of course there is
            Mayweather 114–114 CJ Ross

            Anyone else see that as an even fight?


            Coincidence???????????????????????????????????

            I guess if you're going to pay judges and fix fights doing it this extreme is kind of brilliant. Nobody is going to believe you can be that obvious.
            Last edited by petegrif; 09-18-2017, 12:30 PM.

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            • Wizardsh
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              #36
              Originally posted by alexjust
              The problem is complete lack of accountability and almost nonexistent revision of the decisions. NSAC should get 3 independent judges approved by both teams to review the match and make their decision count instead of Byrd's. If all done right, Canelo should have L. Narrow, but L.
              But idiots on this site will call you a dumb f!u!c!k for even saying this. In championship fights their should be a review if the scores are crap, but like I said idiots on this site want to complain about robbery but as soon you bring up the only solution which is a replay with judges they don't want it

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              • ShoulderRoll
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                #37
                More of the media needs to be like Teddy Atlas and call out the power brokers and money men of the sport.

                Things like this will continue to happen unless we hold their feet to the fire and demand change.

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                • HandsofIron
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                  #38
                  Both Mayweather-McGregor and Canelo-GGG fights were fixed and boxing is a joke now.

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                  • MisanthropicNY
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Mike_R
                    That Byrd scorecard is the worst I've ever seen. The margin of victory puts it in it's own league of how unbelievably wrong it is.

                    It's almost like she was hedging against a possible late-rounds knockdown against Canelo or something so that he could still win the fight even if he went down at some point- but then it ended up just insane looking.

                    It sucks, that one score card tarnished this whole fight. Boxing once again is a laughing stock to casuals.

                    The decision itself- being a draw- isn't great; but if it had been a majority draw with two 114-114 cards and a 115-113 for G then I would have understood that.

                    It was a very good fight. Both guys proved a lot of positive things about themselves. All of it now overshadowed.

                    Multiple people said that G wouldn't be able to win a decision no matter what, and it's a joke how obvious the fix was ahead of time. WWE levels of predictability.
                    Why would a decision be more understandable because two Vegas judges who don't know **** about boxing and only do what their told agreed with each other?

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                    • MisanthropicNY
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                      #40
                      The funny thing is that if you think judges being crooked is going on... imagine.. what else NSAC is hiding? Floyd "IV" Mayweather sure doesn't fight outsides of Vegas and sure doesn't have hand problems anymore...

                      Sure looks way bulkier than he did in his younger days...Not sure how a guy gets more cut and bulky as he gets older...

                      The Jon Jones of Boxing Floyd "IV" Mayweather.

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