Comments Thread For: Golovkin-Canelo and The Predictable Controversy

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  • BronerToney
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    #11
    Originally posted by The tucker
    I honestly saw no controversy over a draw in this fight besides that horrendous score card that judge turned in for canelo.

    The 1st 3 rounds canelo was out boxing ggg easily who looked surprisingly timid. But then canelo gassed out on que faster than Mcgregor and ggg was applying pressure not super effective pressure but enough to win him the rounds.

    In the middle rounds canelo was to busy doing his favorite mayweather impression by making his opponents miss but he was not making them pay. So ggg was winning those rounds. Then canelo would come in and fight in spurts. Then ggg would hunt him down and land a couple of shots then canelo would occasionally land some in return. Some rounds where give I take so that's why I think there is no problem with the draw but that judge needs to be removed.
    Are you blind? Canelo easily loss the first round and round 4 as well. The first round he ate jabs while on his back foot and had one good furry.

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    • Lineal Champ
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      #12
      Originally posted by BronerToney
      Are you blind? Canelo easily loss the first round and round 4 as well. The first round he ate jabs while on his back foot and had one good furry.
      How do you win a round when you in the first 45 seconds of the round you don't throw a single punch? Not even a jab?

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      • KOComplaints
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        #13
        I felt Canelo won
        7-5.
        Yes GGG was having Canelo move backwards and Canelo was on the ropes,but here is my question,was it effective?

        A lot of the time GGG threw punches yes,but he never landed anything og significance. I remember in 1 of the rounds, Canelo landed this amateurish hook, and I was like "how did that land?!".

        Canelo did fight in spurts and GGG was pushing him back,but the problem I had was Canelo in those spurts landed alot of clean punches, GGG being aggressive missed like crazy.

        Do people only score on punching and aggressiveness? or do they score on effective aggressiveness as in clean punches?

        There were points in the fight where Canelo stood right infront of GGG and he beat him standing infront of him.

        the question of how who won is a matter of how you score fights
        the argument for GGG are

        +Aggressiveness
        +Punches thrown
        +Punches landed

        Arguments Against
        -Missed a lot
        -Didn't land a lot clean on the face
        -Ate a lot of clean punches

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        • Scipio2009
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          #14
          What time **** have folks been talking about?

          Finally getting a chance to sit and watch the fight and Golovkin didn't leave anything of substance until the 5th round, with Alvarez bouncing his counters off of Golovkin's face, basically at will.

          Canelo basically took the first 4 rounds, Golovkin won Round 5, Golovkin maybe won Round 6, Alvarez edge Round 7, 8 was close, Alvarez won Round 9 and 10, 11 was close, and Alvarez won the 12th going away.

          Give Golovkin both questionable rounds, and you'd still have a 7-5 Alvarez score.

          There's a reason why the scoring criteria is effective aggression and not simply aggression.

          Outside of simply press forward, Golovkin spent nearly the entire fight having his jab bounce off of air and gloves, and catching Alvarez's counter shots off of his face and ribs.

          118-110 was definitely a terrible card but y'all are ridiculous.

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          • KOComplaints
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            #15
            Originally posted by Scipio2009
            Finally getting a chance to sit and watch the fight and Golovkin didn't leave anything of substance until the 5th round, with Alvarez bouncing his counters off of Golovkin's face, basically at will.

            Canelo basically took the first 4 rounds, Golovkin won Round 5, Golovkin maybe won Round 6, Alvarez edge Round 7, 8 was close, Alvarez won Round 9 and 10, 11 was close, and Alvarez won the 12th going away.

            Give Golovkin both questionable rounds, and you'd still have a 7-5 Alvarez score.

            There's a reason why the scoring criteria is effective aggression and not simply aggression.

            Outside of simply press forward, Golovkin spent nearly the entire fight having his jab bounce off of air and gloves, and catching Alvarez's counter shots off of his face and ribs.

            118-110 was definitely a terrible card but y'all are ridiculous.
            I guess I am not as crazy as I thought I was seeing how someone else had it 7-5 Alvarez

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            • Scary_canary
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              #16
              Originally posted by Lineal Champ
              How do you win a round when you in the first 45 seconds of the round you don't throw a single punch? Not even a jab?
              By controlling and punching your way through the next 135 seconds lol

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              • Eff Pandas
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                #17
                Originally posted by bronx7
                That fight was not a draw. 8/4 ggg 7/5 if you were drunk. If you didn't see ggg have effective aggression all night with Canella going backwards all night then you do not know the criteria to score
                Steve Farwood (6-6) & Chris Mannix (6-6) musta been freebased krokodil off a turtles **** Saturday night if 7-5 GGG means you were drunk.

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                • ippo
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                  #18
                  Had it 8-4 ggg.said to the people watching with me they were going to rob ggg and they sure enough they did.They saved canelo's record and secured the rematch.More money for vegas.Vegas always wins.

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                  • Guy3008
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                    #19
                    I re watched the fight and I also have it 7-5 for Canelo. GGG was simply stalking. Nothing big landed. Canelo threw beautiful counters and managed to dodge most of the artillery. You don't score for stalking. This was very similar to Cotto-Margarito in terms of one guy mostly just stalking the other guy countering.
                    Last edited by Guy3008; 09-18-2017, 04:17 AM.

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                    • PunchyPotorff
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                      #20
                      IMO one of the reasons for all the uproar is that the fight didn't go as the majority thought it would go, and anything less than that most fans saw as bogus.

                      Canelo's defense was excellent throughout, while GGGs has never been that amazing. Canelo fought well early on and the last 3, but fought in spurts the middle rounds. GGG seemed clueless in how to consistently and effectively cut off the ring. Instead he just chased Canelo most of the fight. And his connect percentage wasn't good, no matter what compubox tries to say. Even with his connects, most weren't solid... mainly thanx to Canelo's movement.

                      A rematch IMO will be a real, acceptable UD for Canelo in my view. Just my 37 cents worth.

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