Every Major Media Outlet had GGG Winning the Fight

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  • monkeyboy
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    #141
    Originally posted by mathed
    Different case study....

    Had 9 people watching at my house, 4 casuals who didn't really know who GGG was. Every single person thought GGG won very easily by the end of the fight. 9-3, 8-4.

    Everyone agreed that Candelita couldn't bother GGG with any of his power and that he got scared and ran. We all thought GGG broke him down mentally and physically.
    Slightly more people at the party but I have exactly the same story.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #142
      Originally posted by Thraxox
      There are a lot of rounds that were close but clear GGG rounds. Canelo doing a flashy combo for the first 30 seconds then doing nothing while getting battered in the next 2 minutes isn't going to give him the round. That's why all credible media had sweeped 4-9 rounds easy with 10-12 going either way alms Canelo getting 2-3 while the first round was a draw. The eitherway rounds are 10-11-12, round 9 landing a big over hand right then allowing golovkin to trap him on the ropes and batter him is not winning strategy. They used the criteria of "Aggression" "Ring Generalship" "Clean and Effective punches" and "Defense"

      Canelo absolutely failed in the first 2 criteria and his clean and effective punching where only spurts and sometimes landing one head snapping punches. Golovkin had better consistency in his effective punches and snapped Canelos head a lot of times also but his workrate and his effective aggression that had Canelo battered overrides Canelos flashy combos in the first minute.

      This is absolutely easy to score. Which is why 80-90 percent of boxing had GGG winning. Being flashy doesn't make you win rounds nor does landing one good punch then do nothing for the next 2 minutes. Effective Aggression and consistency is what wins rounds!
      I disagree. I didn't see Canelo get "battered" at any point of the fight.

      Some rounds were clear some weren't.

      Draw a fair result IMO.

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      • chrisJS
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        #143
        The usual suspects that had Canelo winning did so before the fight. It could have been 120-108 and they would have said 7-5 Canelo or draw.

        It was close and competitive, but also clear. Marquez-Pacquaio III would be my comparison in that Marquez clearly won, but if you score one round wrong and give the benefit of the doubt to one guy in all close rounds you get a draw. 116-112 or 115-113 for GGG.

        I watched it with a lot of Mexicans and the crowd was more Canelo fans than GGG and all but one person thought GGG won and the guy that had it for Canelo was drunk as hell and claiming he scored a knockout so not sure that counts.

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        • chrisJS
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          #144
          Originally posted by Death_Adder
          MMA and Wrasslin? Really? They're major boxing observers now? SI doesn't cover boxing so they don't count either. Casuals and MMA fans that were influenced by the Lederman score card had GGG winning.
          Also, the list includes Canelo's promoter, so that's not credible either.

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          • Bad_Guy
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            #145
            8-4 GGG was my score. That was being generous to Canelo. I could see 9-3 or 10-2 GGG. 10-2 Canelo is laughable.

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            • alexguiness
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              #146
              Canelo did have cleaner work, but there was not enough of it and it did nothing to stop Golovkin coming forward.

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                #147
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                Yea I think judges are counting power punches during the fight. Mrs Byrd mighta actually been the compubox person + the judge. I heard she's part Jamaican so its not a crazy idea Jamaicans having 8 jobs at once & all.

                Come the f#ck on man. I'm saying the power punches have a more dramatic impact that is hard for any of the judges to miss & therefore tends to "score" more with them. So yea sure a judge seeing GGG's head get kicked back 3 times vs Canelo's only 1 in those early rounds made those rounds his. And in the last few rounds when GGG's head got kicked back 4 or 5 times & Canelo's just twice or three times or whatever then yea Canelo's lags in offense didn't punish him as much as you might think after the judges saw that.



                The funny thing is I'm merely saying the fight was close & I personally had it a draw, but could understand it being 7-5 either way easy & a 8-4 card GGG way isn't unreasonable either. Your the knucklehead who seems to think this fight could have only been given to GGG. I'm the actually being the logical & reasonable cat in this discussion & you the choking on Kazakhstan nuts for whatever reason over a close f#cking fight that either guy coulda gotten the nod in if you don't have balls in your throat.
                You said here 8-4 isn't unreasonable to ggg, yet you said your arguing with some knuckleheads who claim an 8-4 win, so you have 4 rounds that could go either way yet you must have swung somewhat towards ggg to say 8-4 isn't unreasonable, is that correct

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                • Mexican_Puppet
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                  #148
                  Every media?

                  Most of latinamerican media had a very disputed fight and accepting the draw

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                  • Mexican_Puppet
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Bad_Guy
                    8-4 GGG was my score. That was being generous to Canelo. I could see 9-3 or 10-2 GGG. 10-2 Canelo is laughable.
                    Your post is laughable.

                    Don't know sh.it about boxing

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                      Yea I think judges are counting power punches during the fight. Mrs Byrd mighta actually been the compubox person + the judge. I heard she's part Jamaican so its not a crazy idea Jamaicans having 8 jobs at once & all.

                      Come the f#ck on man. I'm saying the power punches have a more dramatic impact that is hard for any of the judges to miss & therefore tends to "score" more with them. So yea sure a judge seeing GGG's head get kicked back 3 times vs Canelo's only 1 in those early rounds made those rounds his. And in the last few rounds when GGG's head got kicked back 4 or 5 times & Canelo's just twice or three times or whatever then yea Canelo's lags in offense didn't punish him as much as you might think after the judges saw that.



                      The funny thing is I'm merely saying the fight was close & I personally had it a draw, but could understand it being 7-5 either way easy & a 8-4 card GGG way isn't unreasonable either. Your the knucklehead who seems to think this fight could have only been given to GGG. I'm the actually being the logical & reasonable cat in this discussion & you the choking on Kazakhstan nuts for whatever reason over a close f#cking fight that either guy coulda gotten the nod in if you don't have balls in your throat.
                      Originally posted by Shape up
                      You said here 8-4 isn't unreasonable to ggg, yet you said your arguing with some knuckleheads who claim an 8-4 win, so you have 4 rounds that could go either way yet you must have swung somewhat towards ggg to say 8-4 isn't unreasonable, is that correct
                      opps....LOL

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