Comments Thread For: Carl Froch: Let's Be Honest - Who Has Golovkin Fought?

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  • BluDivision
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    #71
    Originally posted by TreJac
    I hope you're classifying a belt holder as a good or great fighter! Anyone can hold a title but it doesn't mean there high level fighters. Hall of famers? Ward! That's it!

    Kessler, Abraham & Jermaine Taylor.....

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    • Verus
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      #72
      Originally posted by ThatDude44
      Danny Jacobs and only real opponent at age 34-35. I know CV means resume or whatever but wtf does it stand for? Lol. Help me out.
      CV refers to Curriculum Vita. "Vita" is used by college and university professors and researchers rather than resumes when applying for a job. Roughly translated into plain English: "Course work life" or "Academic Life."
      These are usually lengthy documents listing all academic accomplishments. People outside of an academic setting trying to puff up their language will refer to CVs when they are actually talking about resumes. Hope this helps.

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      • BluDivision
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        #73
        GGG is a good/great fighter. Just hasn't fought many other ones.

        Golovkin beat 3 world champions! Geale, Brook & Lemiuex!

        Lara, Trout & Ward are fights that should've been made. Saturday will reveal it all tho.

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        • Verus
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          #74
          Froch was not the most athletic, nor did he have devastating power, but prepared well for his fights and he was a tough guy who fought the best in his time. Two words to describe him would be "over achiever" and I mean that in a good way.

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          • Palakin Stu
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            #75
            Jacobs is better than any middleweight Alvarez has on his record.

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            • Verus
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              #76
              Originally posted by TheBigLug
              The way people talk about Golovkin, you would think has beaten a load of club fighters and journeymen.

              He's beaten some pretty good fighters and demolished a lot of them. I'm not saying the likes of Murray, Macklin, Geale, David Lemieux, Rubio etc.. are anything close to elite fighters but they are solid contenders and some world champions. Nobody has really destroyed the likes of Murray like Golovkin did.

              Now who has Canelo beaten as convincingly as GGG has beaten his opponents? A corpse Chavez Jr? Domestic level Liam Smith, Kirkland who was inactive and been stopped in a round by Ishida, Khan who didn't have a chin at lightweight. Are they really significantly better opponents than Golovkin's dominant wins? No.

              If people want to say GGG had problems with the best guys he faced...well so did Canelo. Arguably got a gift v Lara, struggled with Trout, had a decision with a well past prime Cotto in which some people had it scored very close.

              Canelo has fought the better opposition, no dis*****g that, but has struggled also with the really good ones. He hasn't beaten a A or B level fighter in truly convincing fashion either.
              "If people want to say GGG had problems with the best guys he faced...well so did Canelo." Good point, but the reality is that all fighters have problems with the best guys they faced, even the greats, no exceptions, including Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson, Foreman, Mayweather, Hagler, Duran, Joe Louis and so on. So to say that GGG, Canelo or anyone has had problems fighting the best is not a negative, nor a revelation of any sort.

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              • TheBigLug
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                #77
                Originally posted by Verus
                "If people want to say GGG had problems with the best guys he faced...well so did Canelo." Good point, but the reality is that all fighters have problems with the best guys they faced, even the greats, no exceptions, including Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson, Foreman, Mayweather, Hagler, Duran, Joe Louis and so on. So to say that GGG, Canelo or anyone has had problems fighting the best is not a negative, nor a revelation of any sort.
                Indeed, i was going to add that to my post anyway but it was getting a bit long. As i've always said, you can't just keep moving through levels and knocking guys out for fun.

                It's also why i don't give Canelo an edge just because he fought some better opponents. Had he beaten an opponent near the top in even remotely dominant fashion, i'd definitely give him that edge. The only guys both have seriously dominated were around similar levels and that GGG has made easy work of some opponents that are not usually easy work for anybody else they faced.

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                • BluDivision
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Palakin Stu
                  Jacobs is better than any middleweight Alvarez has on his record.
                  Jacobs resume is just as thin as GGG's....

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                  • JK1700
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                    #79
                    A cab driver, mailman, postman, policeman, fireman and a dentist.

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                    • Mammoth
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                      #80
                      Froch just needs to stop being salty towards Ward and Golovkin. I always liked Froch he's just too bitter.

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