Would you consider Pacquiao one of the best offensive fighters of all time?

[TMTForever99]

biggest hype jobs of the lat 40 years:

1. Roberto Duran - 1-5 against the best of his era
2. Oscar De la hoya - 0-4 aganst the best of his era
3. Manny pacquaio - 2-4 against the best of his era

there is nothing spectacular beating a weight drained margarito or cotto. if his offense was so good why doesn't he fight the top welterweights. pacquaio is a media creation and we all know what happens when hype jobs have to step up and fight the best

[WesternChamp]

biggest hype jobs of the lat 40 years:

1. Roberto Duran - 1-5 against the best of his era
2. Oscar De la hoya - 0-4 aganst the best of his era
3. Manny pacquaio - 2-4 against the best of his era

there is nothing spectacular beating a weight drained margarito or cotto. if his offense was so good why doesn't he fight the top welterweights. pacquaio is a media creation and we all know what happens when hype jobs have to step up and fight the best

try convincing the mayweathers instead!

[WesternChamp]

Pacquiao vs Morales 1
- Pacquiao had a Blood Test 1 month before the Fight.

- 2 Days before the fight, Pacquiao then got a call from the Commission that they need to take a Blood Test again because the Hospital lost the Blood Test record.

- After the Blood Test, the Doctor suggested that Pacquiao should drink a lot water and eat and Knowing that the Weigh in is the Next day.

- Pacquiao wouldn't drink or eat because of the weigh in, So during the fight he was weak. After the fight, Morales said he didn't feel Pacquiao's power.

**** **** ****!

[WesternChamp]

can anyone tell me why floyd needed random testing up until fight night when manny has never tested positive for anything? also once manny agreed to the 14 days that floyd offer, why did floyd reject and say testing up until fight night? does this sound like posturing or a guy that wants to fight?????

anyone????

[Boxing Goat]

I'd say, either side had different times of refusing to fight. At the end of the day, Floyd got the advantage of making the fight later in their career than sooner, and we all saw how he took an injured Pac to school.

I fixed your post for accuracy

[travestyny]

ONCE AGAIN, SOMEONE TELL ME WHY PACQUIAO NEEDED MORE THAN A 14-DAY CUT OFF FOR DRUG TESTING.

i refuse to have a debate with someone who is gonna post nothing but links. not today my friend not today. im not the one. go back to your floyd vs pac thread and debate there with links. lmao!

I don't really give a **** why he needed more than 14 days.

Floyd
You believe Floyd?
Floyd said
Floyd Mayweather
Floyd and company
Mosley GB team :
"Golden Boy chief executive Richard Schaefer
the Nevada Athletic Commission."
Shane
"Golden Boy Promotions executive Richard Schaefer Nevada
Golden Boy and company
Floyd's Floyd,
his fans and USADA
Floyd fans Floyd, Floyd
You believe Floyd?
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Look at the Pacroaches ducking, dodging, and deflecting

[funkboxblue]

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[WesternChamp]

Pacquiao vs Morales 1
- Pacquiao had a Blood Test 1 month before the Fight.

- 2 Days before the fight, Pacquiao then got a call from the Commission that they need to take a Blood Test again because the Hospital lost the Blood Test record.

- After the Blood Test, the Doctor suggested that Pacquiao should drink a lot water and eat and Knowing that the Weigh in is the Next day.

- Pacquiao wouldn't drink or eat because of the weigh in, So during the fight he was weak. After the fight, Morales said he didn't feel Pacquiao's power.

[WesternChamp]

can anyone tell me why floyd needed random testing up until fight night when manny has never tested positive for anything? also once manny agreed to the 14 days that floyd offer, why did floyd reject and say testing up until fight night? does this sound like posturing or a guy that wants to fight?????

if floyd wanted the fight why did he keep changing his stance once manny agrees to it? posturing?

[travestyny]

Which Floyd was right, DEFLECTOR? I'm still waiting for your response.

Yawnnnn. How many times have I answered ALL of your questions, only for you to duck, deflect, and run away. Ok. Well I'm going to do it again for you. Let's see if this actually makes you answer my questions in return. Or will you duck, dodge, deflect....OR BEG FOR A DRAW

2015 version of Floyd and USADA(gave retro TUE) where they believe that blood testing affects you or pre-2015 version of Floyd and USADA that said it doesn't affect you?


2009/2010
Was Manny right that giving blood can affect you while training and for the fight as he said on a video prior to the negotiations (Morales fight)?


2009/2010/2011
Was Floyd and USADA right that giving blood does not affect you while training?

Floyd brings up Morales!!!! He knew that Manny would say no!!!:
"The Mayweather-Pacquiao fight didn't get made because Manny Pacquiao said he wanted two weeks of non-testing. The last two weeks leading up until the fight, he didn't want to take the tests, so that's why the fight didn't happen. Everything they asked of me, I agreed and what I asked of them, they didn't agree."

" When Manny gave blood before the first Morales fight, he lost.
He didn't give blood for the next two fights and he knocked Morales out with ease. A lot of times, people don't realize, giving blood doesn't make you weak. Not being able to juice because you have to give blood makes you weak. That's what a lot of people don't realize and don't know." - Floyd Mayweather



2015 - Floyd now contradicts his previous statements about the affects of giving blood
Was Floyd right that giving blood 10 days earlier affects you while training?


2008 - Golden Boy - Floyd's promoters thinks its an INSULT to have extra testing!!!
"Whatever tests they want them to take, Shane will submit to that. We are not going to do other tests than the Nevada commission requires," Schaefer said. "The fact is Shane is not a cheater and he does not need to be treated like one."



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Problem here is you are a butthurt f@g. I seriously mean that. NOT ONE PERSON HAS EVER TRIED TO MAKE THE CASE THAT GIVING BLOOD WAS THE MAIN CAUSE OF FLOYD'S DEHYDRATION. Where did Floyd ever say that giving blood made him weak? What did they say was the cause for dehydration? "JUST WORKING." It's beyond idiotic for you to keep bringing up giving blood. You cling to that like a baby at it's mom's tit and yet NOT ONE PERSON HAS COSIGNED YOU ON YOUR ******ITY.

Why don't you make a thread and post Floyd and Ellerby's statement along with his quotation that giving blood doesn't weaken you for a fight. Oh, and you forgot. Mayweather went through various testing protocols and WAS NEVER WEAKENED FOR A FIGHT. But was he ever Dehydrated? Yes he was, as you saw in the Mosley fight. Now you believe that is because he gave blood? He was dehydrated when they came, you butthurt moron. Can you explain all of this? I bet you duck!

The Mosley fight shows visual evidence of Floyd being dehydrated. The same Floyd that doesn't go up and down in weight. Care to explain? AND WHAT THE ACTUAL **** DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH MANNY PACQUAIAO NEEDING MORE THAN 2 WEEKS CUSHION BETWEEN DRUG TESTING AND THE TEST, YOU PROJECTING DEFLECTING LITTLE BlTCH.

Bottom line is this. Floyd Mayweather never said that giving blood weakened him for a fight. Period. Floyd Mayweather, nor Leonard Ellerby, said giving blood was a main cause for dehydration. They stated clearly that the main cause was WORKING/ OVERWORKING. Do you deny this?

Tell me ADP02. Which fighter do you think ducked the fight?

Fighter A:
1. Agreed to a 50/50 split
2. Signed the contract
3. Agreed to pay extra for being overweight.
4. Asked for 14 day cut-off of drug testing after wanting full random testing. Keep in mind, Fighter B's coach said they need at least 5 days.


Fighter B:
1. Refused to fight because he needed a whopping 24 days between drug testing and the fight. WHO THE **** NEEDS MORE THAN 2 WEEKS TO RECOVER FROM GIVING BLOOD?

2. His own trainer said he would only need 5 days.

3. His own trainer admit that the fight not happening was their fault.


You know what? I gave you a lot so let me repose my question so that you can see it clearly and not duck.

LET'S SEE IF YOU CAN ANSWER WITHOUT MENTIONING EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHER EXCEPT FOR THE ONE PERSON YOU SHOULD MENTION: Pacquaio.

WHAT LOGICAL REASON CAN YOU GIVE FOR MANNY PACQUIAO NEEDING MORE THAN 2 WEEKS TO RECOVER FROM GIVING BLOOD FOR A PED TEST?


Don't duck, dodge, and deflect. Let's see if you can answer, because all of your boys here bltched out. And you've been giving deflections instead of answering.