Would you consider Pacquiao one of the best offensive fighters of all time?

[WesternChamp]

not gonna lie, floyd played it right.

"We all know the Pacquiao fight, at this particular time, will never happen, and the reason why the fight won't happen is because I will never do business with Bob Arum again in life, and Pacquiao is Bob Arum's fighter. Bob Arum gives Pacquiao a date, whereas Floyd Mayweather gives Floyd Mayweather his own date. I will be fighting again in May and I will be fighting again in September. I'm gonna give you two reasons the Pacquiao fight is not going to happen. Like I said before, I will never do business with Bob Arum in life, but I don't wish him nothing bad,"

Floyd Mayweather Jr.’s crafty, well-plotted style in the boxing ring carried over to his decision of choosing when to fight*Manny Pacquiao*too, he said.

At his gym Tuesday, on media day for a fight that is expected to destroy pay-per-view and live-gate records, Mayweather (47-0, 26 knockouts) detailed why he finally agreed to fight the record eight-division champion from the Philippines.

Everything in life is about timing,” Mayweather said. “I don’t regret anything. The time is now.

“Before, I don’t think this fight was as big as this. With me going out there getting bigger and bigger, not just in boxing, but outside the sport, and him stepping outside boxing and continuing to grow outside the sport, the names are much bigger now than they were before.

[Boxing Goat]

You can't sign a contract and dodge a fight at the same time. That's impossible.

Manny put the 10 million dollar weight limit clause? Why?

Floyd signed that. Agreed to 50/50. Compromised of random testing. How is the man who signed the dodger?

At the time Floyd didn't hold all of the cards. That's what you're forgetting.

Why random testing at all if he knew it was 'easy work' all along?

Then fast forward to Manny getting cold c@cked out of nowhere by JMM while pulverizing him and losing a bs decision vs. Bradley, and all of the sudden Floyd is willing to fight Manny.

Even as a fan, with what I've said in correlation with that video, you should be su****ious.

[travestyny]

At the time Floyd didn't hold all of the cards. That's what you're forgetting.

Why random testing at all if he knew it was 'easy work' all along?

Then fast forward to Manny getting cold c@cked out of nowhere by JMM while pulverizing him and losing a bs decision vs. Bradley, and all of the sudden Floyd is willing to fight Manny.

Even as a fan, with what I've said in correlation with that video, you should be su****ious.

I'm pretty sure the point that dude was making is that Floyd was willing to fight Pacquiao before he got knocked out cold.

You know...as proven by him signing a contract for a 50/50 split and allowing a cut-off date for random testing.

I'm still waiting for someone to give a logical answer of why Pacquiao needed over 14 days cut-off for random drug testing. Not one person has been able to give even one reason why that made any sense.

[Baltimore]

Of course Pac is one of the best offensive fighters of all time.

Anyone who says otherwise is hating.

[Disturbed]

good post but technically pac was the only one to stop cotto since the marg fight has a question mark over it. this is why the mayweathers started accusing pac of being on peds. cotto aint no push over.

For sure, considered mentioning the controversy about Margarito fight but some fan of his (Margarito) would have started *****ing anyways

[ADP02]

Yup, interviews were before and after the Cotto fight.


They were getting all of their picks wrong:
- Hatton is going to beat Manny .... WRONG!

- It's not even a fight. Oscar is going to beat Manny .... WRONG!

- Big Cotto is going to win... he is big, got skills .... WRONG!

PAC pajama player...
PAC ko'ed himself on the fist of JMM so he could trick Floyd into fighting him??
PAC also got roughed up by a nobody named Horn to raise his(PAC's) stock and put himself in contention to fight Floyd again in slow motion??

Yep, yeah, sure, whatever.. Really? Whatever..

After JMM and 2nd Bradley fight, then Floyd felt said he saw a different Manny.

Months after Bradley fight, Floyd vs Manny fight was being negotiated.

Floyd comparing risky Manny vs Cotto and the Bradley vs Manny 2:
"I'm seeing something totally different in Pacquiao," Mayweather said.

Mayweather said he saw a much weaker Pacquiao April 12 in a decision win against Timothy Bradley than the one who stopped Miguel Cotto in the 12th round of a 2009 bout.

"I don't see the same pop in Pacquiao's shots -- me, myself, I don't see the same snap in his shots," Mayweather said before. "He's getting tired and he wasn't getting tired before. So, I mean, I'm seeing something totally different. Whereas me, I'm still sharp, I'm still smart, I'm not getting fatigued, I wasn't getting fatigued from the beginning.

"Those are the things that I see. I don't know if you guys see it but that's what I see."

[ADP02]

You deny that initially the fight falling apart was due to Pacquaio?


Jesus Christ. You Pacroaches are sad, sad, sad. Even his father Freddie Roach said it.

You guys are really roaches. Whole lot of ducking and hiding, or what your projecting a$$ calls deflecting. A trio of you f@gs here and not one of you can step up and answer even one of my questions.

It's hard being a Pacquiao fan, huh? You have to make up your own scenarios, do a lot of ducking and deflecting because you know your God was a farce I feel sorry for you. But I do appreciate you. Especially you, ADP02. You always give me someone to beat up on. I gave you 2 epic asswhoopins and I told you that it won't stop. Yea. I thought I told you that it won't stop. It's like a P.Diddy remix.

Which Floyd was right, DEFLECTOR? I'm still waiting for your response.
2015 version of Floyd and USADA(gave retro TUE) where they believe that blood testing affects you or pre-2015 version of Floyd and USADA that said it doesn't affect you?


2009/2010
Was Manny right that giving blood can affect you while training and for the fight as he said on a video prior to the negotiations (Morales fight)?


2009/2010/2011
Was Floyd and USADA right that giving blood does not affect you while training?


Floyd brings up Morales!!!! He knew that Manny would say no!!!:
"The Mayweather-Pacquiao fight didn't get made because Manny Pacquiao said he wanted two weeks of non-testing. The last two weeks leading up until the fight, he didn't want to take the tests, so that's why the fight didn't happen. Everything they asked of me, I agreed and what I asked of them, they didn't agree."

" When Manny gave blood before the first Morales fight, he lost.
He didn't give blood for the next two fights and he knocked Morales out with ease. A lot of times, people don't realize, giving blood doesn't make you weak. Not being able to juice because you have to give blood makes you weak. That's what a lot of people don't realize and don't know." - Floyd Mayweather



2015 - Floyd now contradicts his previous statements about the affects of giving blood
Was Floyd right that giving blood 10 days earlier affects you while training?


2008 - Golden Boy - Floyd's promoters thinks its an INSULT to have extra testing!!!
"Whatever tests they want them to take, Shane will submit to that. We are not going to do other tests than the Nevada commission requires," Schaefer said. "The fact is Shane is not a cheater and he does not need to be treated like one."



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[Boxing Goat]

.............. NO SIR, You are the one that has poor comprehension skills!!!!!


I even said it to you AGAIN in my previous post that the topic was about the first 4 rounds but you butted in with your DEFLECTIONs!!!!!!









The only person that has comprehension (and other problems) is YOU!!!


AGAIN, the topic was about rounds 1 thru 4 and if Manny could have won more than 1 round.

You responded with nonsense!!!




For one, you are basically saying that only an "official" judge can get it right. Not unofficial judging by a former boxing judge nor someone such as myself who has the advantage of video replay!!! or actually, you are deflecting to other rounds that is not part of what was posted!!!! and bringing up stuff that you made up and not relevant.That is more nonsense by YOU!!! "peeleft:
Topic was - Rounds 1-4


Again, BIG DUNN said that based on sound scoring criteria that it was not possible for Manny to have won more than 1 of the first 4 rounds. I disagreed (opinion on BOTH SIDEs) with him and so have others (opinion).

BIG DUNN is going by his observation and so am I and so was the other poster!!!!


According to you, are the other 2 posters also ******ed for discussing this topic?



Before you answer with more DEFLECTIONs here is BIG DUNN's post AGAIN.
He says ""I" can see giving Manny round 4". That is an opinion!!!!!

"I" don't see how "YOU" can give him any other round." That is an opinion!!!!!







ARE YOU AGREEING WITH BIG DUNN OR NOT???? Stick to what was said instead of your nonsense and your continuous DEFLECTIONs!!!!!!!


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Great post, outstanding. You have way more patience than I do on here. Well done

[WesternChamp]

Pacquiao vs Morales 1
- Pacquiao had a Blood Test 1 month before the Fight.

- 2 Days before the fight, Pacquiao then got a call from the Commission that they need to take a Blood Test again because the Hospital lost the Blood Test record.

- After the Blood Test, the Doctor suggested that Pacquiao should drink a lot water and eat and Knowing that the Weigh in is the Next day.

- Pacquiao wouldn't drink or eat because of the weigh in, So during the fight he was weak. After the fight, Morales said he didn't feel Pacquiao's power.

[WesternChamp]

can anyone tell me why floyd needed random testing up until fight night when manny has never tested positive for anything? also once manny agreed to the 14 days that floyd offer, why did floyd reject and say testing up until fight night? does this sound like posturing or a guy that wants to fight?????