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  • Originally posted by kushking View Post
    He ducked him because he was calling him out & trying to claim hed fight him & then bītched out refused to negotiate & offered 50 yr old bhop at 168 but fake offered ward at 164. Funny how gggroupies say canelos been ducking ggg for yrs despite him being only 5'8" & still being able to make jmw when guys like liam smith didn't even make weight in last fight & lost title because of it.

    And ggg is 5'11(by own admission way bigger fighter)whos rarely ever fought anyone taller than him,& has never been able to make below mw. How can canelo have been ducking ggg if he barely won his mw title end nov of 2015,at cw,then ggg forced 15 day deadline purse bid while canelo was on trial he lost millions on,ggg took a yr to negotiate vs jacobs in a low earning fight bickering over a few hundred k but we're supposed to believe mr "im the a side who deserves at least 40% because im the champ" would have gotten it done in 15 days in a superfight.gtfoh And he wasn't even the real champ as he claimed,he had "won" 1 vacant belt,& gifted 2 other jr belts canelo beat the LINEAL.But canelo was expected to let it go to purse bid & pay ggg 45% that only wbc mandates in their rules, the same rules Sulaiman humptydumpty broke & gifted ggg a vacant belt despite being rival orgs champ. Ggg has everyone fooled,he was crying that kahn jumping 8 lbs is disgrace then made brook jump 12 lbs weeks after.

    The hypocrisy is astounding as is the amount of mental gymnastics gggroupies commit. And we're supposed to believe canelo couldve fought ggg sooner than he did after vacating despite ggg being on different timeline & being signed to fight mandatory in 1 of those fights since.BS
    Canelo had belts at middleweight and GGG was his mandatory, funny how Golovkin haters neglect to mention this

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    • Originally posted by j.razor View Post
      Ward was at 168 at the time & got free from his former promoter challenged lil g OFFICIALLY & within 36 minutes lil g & team said NO & there was a 1 fight clause where each fighter can have a fight before they would actually fight. lil g denied Ward at a shot to fight him period but lil g wanted Floyd or Pacquiao then Nelo, it's the money he is chasing.....
      You mean when Ward was out and the fight was stipulated to be in the future not right away? Yes I can see why GGG didnt accept to fight a bigger guy who wouldnt be fighting him straight away, especially at his age.

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      • Originally posted by j.razor View Post
        He did a Barry Sanders & juked his way out of a PRIZE FIGHT.
        By not fighting someone who isnt even his weight? By ur logic Mayweather ducked GGG because after-all GGG called him out publicly on multiple occasions. That's a ridiculous statement to make in both cases.

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        • Originally posted by Lemonhead_Jeff View Post

          Lara was fighting in the very same division as the fighters that Golovkin was targeting.
          The guys GGG was targeting (Canelo, Cotto and Mayweather Jr.) are the same guys everyone from 147 to 160 would target. Those guys are stars. Those are career defining fights that ensured their opponents would get paydays 2 or 3 times larger than they had ever gotten and probably will ever get in their careers. By that logic anyone from either 147 or 160 who expressed interest in fighting those guys ducked Lara by not challenging him. Its just silly.

          Lara is more well-known than most of the fighters GGG defended his titles against.
          Yes he is. But he's not popular enough to demand GGG move down to fight him. While he's more well-known than many of GGG's opponents he's not more well known than GGG.
          The quality of Lara's opposition has dropped because fighters like GGG avoid him.
          I completely disagree. Lara's opposition has dropped because he is unwilling to fight the Charlo's since at one point they both trained with him (one still does). He also never got around to fighting Demetrious Andrade (though Andrade deserves at least some of the blame as well). There are other less well known but extremely talented young fighters in that division that Lara could have fought at any time and whom represented bigger threats than Yuri Foreman. But he didn't. And he could always moved up if he couldn't get the fights he wanted. Don't blame GGG for Lara's underwhelming opposition.

          Your magic 8-ball might be broken. Shake it again.
          Cotto's actions post-Canelo prove me right.
          He only got the fight when Canelo decided that he could have it. He didn't have to drop to a catch weight, but the catch is that he had to wait. Spin it however you like.
          There is no spin. Neither guy got the fight exactly when or how they wanted. That's how negotiations should work.

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          • Originally posted by Ray* View Post
            Thank you for this post. I really don't have the strength to be pulling out quotes and whatnot from Team GGG. You want the big fight? You think everyone is ducking you? Then make concessions, all the bigger names of now had to do it. Mayweather did, Pac did, Cotto did, Hatton did etc

            Now am not saying every boxer had to, but don't complain if you do not get those bigger names. This is why i said Team GGG would be at fault if GGG loses this fight, they waited too long to say yes to the fight because of money/weight.

            Wait till the usual fanatics comes back with "They offer them the fight for later"
            So basically, nobody gave in on the weight for a middleweight title fight, all sides move on to easier alternative opponents (except for GGG's fight with Danny Jacobs) and only one guy gets blamed for it. Gotcha.

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            • Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
              So basically, nobody gave in on the weight for a middleweight title fight, all sides move on to easier alternative opponents (except for GGG's fight with Danny Jacobs) and only one guy gets blamed for it. Gotcha.
              Nah more like Brook.

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              • Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                Nah more like Brook.
                For ****s sake. He didn't chose Brook. He settled on Brook when Brook's promoter offered him as an alternative when his other fighter's demands (Chris Eubanks Jr) threatened to derail the entire promotion.Canelo actively sought out Amir "not even all that impressive at 147" Khan. Situations are completely different you turd.

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                • Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
                  Yes he is. But he's not popular enough to demand GGG move down to fight him. While he's more well-known than many of GGG's opponents he's not more well known than GGG.
                  Lara offered to fight Golovkin at 160.
                  If you can justify Golovkin ignoring Lara because he was not well-known enough, then you should understand fighters like Cotto and Canelo ignoring Golovkin for the same reason.

                  In your mind, GGG only avoided Lara because he was unknown, not because Lara is a talented fighter who could potentially outbox him. On the other hand, you want to believe Golovkin was ONLY avoided out of fear, and not because he was little known.

                  You want to give GGG the benefit of the doubt, but you judge others more harshly for the same conduct.

                  GGG ignored Lara because the risk was not equal to the reward. It's no different than the reason for others avoiding GGG.

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                  • Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
                    For ****s sake. He didn't chose Brook. He settled on Brook when Brook's promoter offered him as an alternative when his other fighter's demands (Chris Eubanks Jr) threatened to derail the entire promotion.Canelo actively sought out Amir "not even all that impressive at 147" Khan. Situations are completely different you turd.
                    Yeah they forced him on GGG... Gotcha

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                    • Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                      Yeah they forced him on GGG... Gotcha
                      Goddamn are you just stupid or are you going out of your way to make things seem worse than they were. He wasn't forced on GGG. GGG could have just delayed his fight until another fighter came along or until Chris Eubanks Jr came to his senses.

                      That's fine unless of course you consider the following things:

                      1.GGG likes to fight at least 3 times a year and restarting negotiations with another middleweight would have killed that.

                      2. As it is, he only got to fight two times last year anyway because Danny Jacobs dragged his feet in negotiations and forced the fight to be moved from December to mid-March. Dragging out negotiations seems to be a habit for GGG's opponents (Jacobs, Canelo, Eubanks Jr, Froch)

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