Who had more potential Zab,Broner or Gamboa?

[uppercut510]

zab, gamboa, broner

[billeau2]

Great Thread OP!

First lets eliminate Broner: His natural ability was fast hands and a good punch which does not carry up. Having a good beard and the ability to get hit are secondary, they don't show elite talent in and of themselves.

Judah and Gamboa is a more interesting comparison. Gamboa like most of the Cuban fighters, did not make the exterior adjustments necessary to stay hungry and at the top of his game. Cuban fighters are always well trained so, when they have real talent and the ability to make adjustments they are a force to be reckoned with...If you took odinaire Solis and Yori Gamboa and put a mean old Cuban Trainer with a bald head, a straw hat and a stare I can't help thinking both men would have gone farther...

Judah came up fighting so in some ways had a point of similarity...Zab's father managed him and that might not have been the best thing for Zab.

heres my opinion and my ugliness: I have a problem with the light weights...Can't see a man at 130-45 pounds and below being a force of nature...At Zab's level the punches mean something, power means something. Zab was coming up and into a premiere class of punchers.

Zab was very talented, fast hands, also a good puncher. Zab just didn't have a killer instinct in my opinion.

[Boxfan83]

When you say "potential" I think put them all back to 0-0 and who "would be" the best. In that case Gamboa because of his Amateur background. But honestly p4p Zab is/was better than the 3.

Heres a fun fight, Broner vs. Gamboa at 140lbs.

[billeau2]

Gamboa by far. He was just the product of a terrible management and getting ****d by 50 Cent who had no clue what he was doing.

Zab had a lot of potential but the streets were more important....


Broner just wasn't that good, the writing was there on the wall since the beginning that he wasn't that talented. He had got a gift against some nobody named Quintero then another one against tiny Ponce De Leon. And this was him being a 'hot' prospect. People think he under achieved but I think it's actually the opposite, at least financially he certainly did. Hell, I'd even say that Vic Ortiz was more of a wasted talent then him.

Ortiz is an interesting case to bring up, very relevant to the thread. You could make a case for Ortiz indeed. He also probably squandered the best opportunity of the lot: When Judah fought Mayweather he showed that in the first 5 rounds or so, he could be a serious problem. I would agree that Ortiz is comparable to Broner, and like Broner the ability to make adjustments is lacking!

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Triangle theory bro.

First of all, had it not been for the point deductions the fight would likely have been a draw. In fact one judge HAD it a draw. The judge that had it wide was on crack.

Second of all, Spinks getting knocked down in the 12th not called a knockdown despite coming off three punches?

Third, Spinks basically threw the last two rounds and was getting roughed up for his trouble.

Fourth, Spinks constantly ducking was what caused him to get hit behind the head, it wasn't intentional.

Mayorga should have won that fight, or at least a draw. And Spinks looked bare average.

I find it funny people think Ward won the first Kov fight despite that fight largely going the same way as Mayorga/Spinks except for extra knockdowns on even rounds.

"Triangle theory"". Wtf are you talking about, that literally has nothing to do with spinks being a paper champ or not..

Spinks was the undisputed, welter champ.. end of story


He wasn't a journeymen
He wasn't a paper champion
This has nothing to do with triangle theory

[b00g13man]

"Triangle theory"". Wtf are you talking about, that literally has nothing to do with spinks being a paper champ or not..

Spinks was the undisputed, welter champ.. end of story


He wasn't a journeymen
He wasn't a paper champion
This has nothing to do with triangle theory

Dude is off his rocker. There's no way on Earth he was following boxing back then. None.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Dude is off his rocker. There's no way on Earth he was following boxing back then. None.

Agree.. just boxrecing it and trying to act like he knows..

[N!Ck F.]

Gamboa for me. At his peak, I thought he was the closest thing I had seen to Roy Jones. Super rare talent with amazing combination of speed, power and reflexes

2. Zab

3. Broner- broner would never bear someone like Cory spinks 04

Gamboa was a steroid cheat that lost all his meaningful fights and was exposed.

Zab, had phenomenal boxing skills along with unbelievable physical talent... just didn’t have the chin or character it takes to stay at the top.

Ask yourself this, if all 3 fought in a tournament against only each other how would it play out?

I say Broner beats neither and comes in last, I say prime Judah beats prime Gamboa 8/10 times.

All 3 are an incredible waste of talent and never came close to reaching the potential they could have.

[Larry the boss]

Cory Spinks AT THAT TIME was a paper champion and you know it. He didn't hit his stride until years after the Judah fight.

Witter was the equivalent of a journeyman when Judah faced him. 18 fights, most going the distance, a bunch of nobodies.


And what you guys are missing is that the alphabet soup of titles was WAY worse back then, so being a titleholder meant way less unless it was the heavyweights or middleweights.

lol..paper champ??? he was the lineal champ who beat Mayorga who beat Forrest who beat Mosley 2 times..how was he a paper champ?

[The Viper]

lol..paper champ??? he was the lineal champ who beat Mayorga who beat Forrest who beat Mosley 2 times..how was he a paper champ?

Agreed....i would like to here this as well