The Way Gonzalez Fought Was Embarrassing

[Code Red]

No, you're right, Gonzalez was obviously the bigger stronger man in their fights. I must have been watching something different than you. I apologize, I'll never question your infinite boxing knowledge again

You keep trying to blame size dude, Rungvisai fought smart and Gonzalez fought dumb, that's all to it. Never once in two fights has anyone from Gonzalez camp or the media said Rungvisia is too big and strong for Chocolito. Who was the favorite to win both fights?

[Mexican_Puppet]

Yet he **** all over those 2 Mexicants we saw fighting last night lol... Go figure

**** all?

With Estrada drained 4 pounds, in a very competitive fight hahahaha, wow.

cuadras? Cuadras whooped his ass:



Cuadras destroyed this guy, because Gonzalez ducked the immediate rematch with Cuadras and that was the reason why Choco Pig fought with his daddy Sor Rungvisai.

Go figure!

And now, Estrada will school the thai and put his name on the boxing glory...

[Mexican_Puppet]

You keep trying to blame size dude, Rungvisai fought smart and Gonzalez fought dumb, that's all to it. Never once in two fights has anyone from Gonzalez camp or the media said Rungvisia is too big and strong for Chocolito. Who was the favorite to win both fights?

Man, this guy is totally ignorant.

Gonzalez has the same reach and hegith than Sor Rungvisai.

Gonzalez principal fault is his 0 defense and flat footed style.

He is a donkey.

[stuff jones]

I don't get the hate.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Great post.

Gonzalez is a hype job, very good fighter but with the level of Santa Cruz...

It was embarrasing see Gonzalez not landing a ****ing jab in all the fight.

He is a donkey... "peeleft:




Plus Gonzalez had a very soft career.

He only had 3 elite rivales: Estrada, WITH 21 YEARS OLD AND IN 108 POUNDS, ESTRADA MOVED TO 108, DRAINED WITH 4 POUNDS.

Cuadras, where he got his ass whooped, and with this thai that is his daddy.

Gonzalez always was a protected fighter and a hype job by the press.

And the press let him get away with pricing himself out of the Estrada rematch. And let him get away from giving the Cuadras, the champ at the time, an immediate rematch after a close fight.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Did the "size" difference prevent Gonzalez from using lateral movement? Did it prevent Gonzalez from holding, clinching when he got hurt? Did the size difference prevent Gonzalez from putting up his guard when being hit in the face? If an opponent is supposedly "bigger" then use your other skills to win the fight. Or as it pertains to Gonzalez..."what other skills?"

1) Lateral movement is only so effective against a bigger sized opponent until they are able to catch the smaller sized opponent. There are enough examples proving this!

2) Clinching / holding is less effective against a heavier opponent because they are physically stronger. Thus, they are able to neutralize / nullify those moves.

3) Putting guard up is also less effective against a heavier opponent relative to a lighter opponent because even the punches landing on the guard by the heavier opponent has more effect than getting punched on the guard by lighter opponents.

4) That's the point. There aren't 'other skill's that can be used to overcome weight advantage when two guys are roughly evenly matched. Skill divisions don't exist in boxing. Only weight divisions do. You want to know why? Because weight is the MOST significant factor in boxing which contributes to the outcomes of boxing bouts. Hence, boxers are separated by weight divisions.

[Motorcity Cobra]

No, you're right, Gonzalez was obviously the bigger stronger man in their fights. I must have been watching something different than you. I apologize, I'll never question your infinite boxing knowledge again

Gonzalez has been the bigger stronger guy most of his career. He runs into one guy that's bigger and stronger and he can't adjust? He can't use his #1 p4p skills to win? The bigger stronger guy doesn't always win. The more skilled guy wins.

[Mexican_Puppet]

And the press let him get away with pricing himself out of the Estrada rematch. And let him get away from giving the Cuadras, the champ at the time, an immediate rematch after a close fight.

Exactly...

Gonzalez was a hype job and a fighter that always be protected by the press.

Look actually all those clowns saying that little Chocolate needs to move to the inferior weight because he is sooooo tinyyyyyyyyy.

Poor david vs goliat...

Please...

This guy has not defense, is a flat footed fighter with a soft career.

Man, this guy has like 9 years like champ AND NEVER UNIFIED A DIVISION, NEVER CLEAN A DIVISION.

And he was a sore loser and a ducker.

Gonzalez was in 112 with the wbc belt.

Estrada had the wbo and wba belts.

Estrada said him: lets go to fight...

And roman gonzalez said: give me 2 millions...

"peeleft:

[Code Red]

1) Lateral movement is only so effective against a bigger sized opponent until they are able to catch the smaller sized opponent. There are enough examples proving this!

2) Clinching / holding is less effective against a heavier opponent because they are physically stronger. Thus, they are able to neutralize / nullify those moves.

3) Putting guard up is also less effective against a heavier opponent relative to a lighter opponent because even the punches landing on the guard by the heavier opponent has more effect than getting punched on the guard by lighter opponents.

4) That's the point. There aren't 'other skill's that can be used to overcome weight advantage when two guys are roughly evenly matched. Skill divisions don't exist in boxing. Only weight divisions do. You want to know why? Because weight is the MOST significant factor in boxing which contributes to the outcomes of boxing bouts. Hence, boxers are separated by weight divisions.

Wow, an intelligent approach to being full of sh_t! Gonzalez did not implore any tactic or strategy other than throw more punches! Had he tried to actually do other things tactically maybe we'd know if size played a factor or not. As it stands "size" is not why he loss, walking into punches is!

[Mexican_Puppet]

Gonzalez has been the bigger stronger guy most of his career. He runs into one guy that's bigger and stronger and he can't adjust? He can't use his #1 p4p skills to win? The bigger stronger guy doesn't always win. The more skilled guy wins.

Exactly.



He bullied a lot of small guys in 105-108 pounds, then with men of his own size, he got his ass whooped...

So.

This ****** midget needs to be 10 pounds heavier than his rival to win a great fight?