The Way Gonzalez Fought Was Embarrassing

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  • HarvardBlue
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    #21
    I don't think it was embarrassing how he fought and he was in there with bigger, stronger fighter who was skillful enough to make the fight look easy. I would make the case that Rungvisai is more effective at carrying out a Maidana type fight. He immediately attacked Gonzalez to the body where he seemed more vulnerable. He also punched with Gonzalez because of his defensive issues. Gonzalez made no adjustments because he probably believed he won the last fight and didn't need to make any. Rung adjusted his body attack and timed him better. Gonzalez was never going to win the fight but he would have kept trying if Rung didn't cut it short.

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    • siablo14
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      #22
      Originally posted by thecomedian2
      I doubt people would call Estrada vs Gonzalez rematch a cherry pick, in any case no matter how good you are, there is always a boxer that will have your number.
      Who had Floyd's number?
      Who has Ward's number?

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      • Mr Objecitivity
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        #23
        Size matters in boxing. Thus, weight divisions exist. Claiming size is irrelevant is false! A boxer who is higher in the P4P list is more likely to lose than win against a heavier boxer in a higher weight division who is at the top of his division's ranking but is lower in terms of the P4P rankings. A more skilled lighter boxer will lose to a significantly heavier boxer who is less skilled. This fight proved one main thing, which is the bravery, heart and courage of Roman Gonzalez since he didn't even have to move up that much in weight above his own natural weight division in the first place. It also proved how significant size is when determining the outcomes of boxing bouts between boxers of a similar skill level.

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        • Metho_4u
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          #24
          Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
          Another excuse is he's been in wars and had 48 fights at the age of 30. Rungvisai is the same age & has 49 fights and he's been stopped twice. He's been in wars too.
          Yeah, but to be fair, Roman just is not a big guy, and it took it one weight class too far. We don't know if he was maybe just shot (which I thought he looked) or if there was another reason for his loss. He's progressively been getting hit more and more each fight, and wear on each fighters body depends on all sorts of variables.

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          • Code Red
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            #25
            Originally posted by Ganstaz003
            Size matters in boxing. Thus, weight divisions exist. Claiming size is irrelevant is false! A boxer who is higher in the P4P list is more likely to lose than win against a heavier boxer in a higher weight division who is at the top of his division's ranking but is lower in terms of the P4P rankings. A more skilled lighter boxer will lose to a significantly heavier boxer who is less skilled. This fight proved one main thing, which is the bravery, heart and courage of Roman Gonzalez since he didn't even have to move up that much in weight above his own natural weight division in the first place. It also proved how significant size is when determining the outcomes of boxing bouts between boxers of a similar skill level.
            For one the size difference was minimal, you guys are killing me with this he too small for 115 BS....His problem is his no adjustment fighting style....you talking like he just went up in weight and ran into Rungvisai, in case you forgot they fought once before, no one used a size excuse then so why you using it now?
            Rungvisai made adjustments for the rematch and Gonzalez didn't hence the results you saw last night!

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            • sicko
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              #26
              It is the way HBO desired but what HBO don't tell you is that the style they prefer has a very short shelf life and when you're done HBO will throw the fighter away and stop giving him dates and pay days!

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              • Boxfan83
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                #27
                Originally posted by Pigeons
                Cuadras whooped Lil Roman's ass first. The Thai just finished the job.
                Lol yup, Cuadras took his soul.

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                • Motorcity Cobra
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Metho_4u
                  Yeah, but to be fair, Roman just is not a big guy, and it took it one weight class too far. We don't know if he was maybe just shot (which I thought he looked) or if there was another reason for his loss. He's progressively been getting hit more and more each fight, and wear on each fighters body depends on all sorts of variables.
                  Ok so when you're not the bigger guy you should beat the other guy with your other skills if you're the #1 p4p fighter, right?

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                  • MDPopescu
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by thecomedian2
                    Styles makes fight you POS, Roman is a pressure fighter, Rugvisai is a brick wall that does not fold under pressure and instead throws bombs while being pressured.. Chocolatito has actually never faced such boxers, every one else he faced folded under pressure, including Estrada, Cuadras.
                    ... Something like that... and, in addition to the first fight, the Thai punched like a mule to the body starting with the round one...

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                    • Mammoth
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Code Red
                      So in other words cherrypick
                      You're saying Estrada is a cherry pick?

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