The Way Gonzalez Fought Was Embarrassing

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  • thecomedian2
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    #11
    Originally posted by Code Red
    There is no way you can argue against the fact Gonzalez fought a dumb, low IQ fight!
    But that is what he has been doing for his entire carrier, Pressure his opponents with volume punches, absorbing one or two punches in the process while landing more, at 105-112 no boxer could deal with that, I don't a thing a guy can change his boxing style from one fight to a next one(same happened with Alexs vs Pryor)

    You have to give Rugvisai credit for being the tough guy he is, Any other boxer would be wise to avoid standing toe to toe with him, he is not unbeatable as Carlos Cuadras has beaten him and Estrada would do the same(same guys that could not take chocolatito's pressure/volume punches)

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    • Code Red
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      #12
      Originally posted by thecomedian2
      But that is what he has been doing for his entire carrier, Pressure his opponents with volume punches, absorbing one or two punches in the process while landing more, at 105-112 no boxer could deal with that, I don't a thing a guy can change his boxing style from one fight to a next one(same happened with Alexs vs Pryor)

      You have to give Rugvisai credit for being the tough guy he is, Any other boxer would be wise to avoid standing toe to toe with him, he is not unbeatable as Carlos Cuadras has beaten him and Estrada would do the same(same guys that could not take chocolatito's pressure/volume punches)
      Then a style like that should never be considered P4P worthy, maybe the Gatti list but not P4P. But if you insist the guy can't adjust or adapt his style then he needs to retire from the sport.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Code Red
        But if you insist the guy can't adjust or adapt his style then he needs to retire from the sport.
        Not necessarily, He just needs to stay clear of Rugvisai, there are a lot of other guys at the weight he could fight, Estrada rematch would sellout the Forum and would be action packed.

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          #14
          Originally posted by thecomedian2
          Not necessarily, He just needs to stay clear of Rugvisai, there are a lot of other guys at the weight he could fight, Estrada rematch would sellout the Forum and would be action packed.
          So in other words cherrypick

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            #15
            theres nothing to adjust or adapt to, if a guy is hitting harder than you and hurting you, thats it, youre done.

            if you cant take his power, youre done.

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              #16
              Originally posted by devildg
              theres nothing to adjust or adapt to, if a guy is hitting harder than you and hurting you, thats it, youre done.

              if you cant take his power, youre done.
              Not true, Hagler hit harder than Leonard, Mosley hit harder than Floyd, Pac hit harder than Marquez.....all these guys were hit, hurt, and adjusted

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                #17
                Originally posted by Code Red
                So in other words cherrypick
                I doubt people would call Estrada vs Gonzalez rematch a cherry pick, in any case no matter how good you are, there is always a boxer that will have your number.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by devildg
                  theres nothing to adjust or adapt to, if a guy is hitting harder than you and hurting you, thats it, youre done.

                  if you cant take his power, youre done.
                  Tito Trinidad hit harder than Hopkins so I guess Hopkins should have just went to war with him until he was finished off, right?

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                    #19
                    He doesn't have the same advantages at SFW that he did at FW and LFW. He lost the speed and the power. I think that some guys don't do well when they are the "star", they don't like the spotlight and when you put them under the spotlight, they feel out of place. This is the more likely scenario, the demands of being a big name in the sport was too much for him and he wanted out of it.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by _original_
                      Let's be real, many felt that he was fighting a journeyman when he took this Thai guy on and ducked the Cuadras rematch. It just blew up in his face. This is more equivalent to Floyd losing to Andre Berto.
                      ALOT of boxing fans didn't know who Rungvisai was before the first Choco fight even though he gave Cuadras hell in their first fight and lost a fight he was coming on strong in . Cuadras himself said before the first fight that he feared Rungvisai would knock Choco out before Cuadras gets his rematch .

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