Roman Gonzalez deserves some respect

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  • soul_survivor
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    #11
    NSB is full of idiots, what can you do?

    The reality is, RG went oen division too far, still managed to gain some success and then lost to a good, rugged, much bigger fighter. No harm in that.

    Heck, he could still come back in rematches against Cuadras or Estrada although I think the latter has hit his peak and will rule the division soon.

    In all honesty, if RG is able to do physically do it, he could still move down 3lb to fly and pick up some more title and the nretire as champ. He may never be as good as he was when I saw him up wins over guys like Estrada, Blanq, Yaegashi, Sosa and Viloria. As anyone who follows the sport known, 30 is ancient for most smaller guys.

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    • SplitSecond
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      #12
      If he wasn't p4p #1 at the time who was?

      Kovalev, ward, golovkin, crawford?

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      • Motorcity Cobra
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        #13
        Originally posted by Thraxox
        Mentally weak? You don't know **** about what is mentally weak.
        He was looking for a way out in the first rd when he stopped to complain about an accidental headbutt & in the second rd when he stopped to complain about a borderline lowblow.

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        • Combat Talk Radio
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          #14
          Originally posted by Tom Cruise
          We were only told he should dominate Rungvisai by people who dont follow the division and just boxrec'd him.

          Anyone who saw at least his fight with Cuadras knew that he was one of the too dogs in the division, and a nightmare stylewise for a pressure fighter like Gonzalez. Plus the natural size as well. Sometimes fight night weights dont tell the full story (see Kell Brook vs GGG for example). RG couldnt put a dent in the guy.

          I bet on Rungvisai at 10/1 in their first fight. Crazy odds.
          You also have to blame commentators who kept yelling that Choco was robbed when he really wasn't.

          The reality is that Choco got dropped by Minny Pacquiao with NO controversy behind it. When that happened, I already knew he had the guy's number and it was a bad style matchup.

          But there was SO. MUCH. HYPE. behind Choco.

          And now, since you mention BoxRec, this is apropos:

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          • Code Red
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            #15
            Originally posted by soul_survivor
            NSB is full of idiots, what can you do?

            The reality is, RG went oen division too far, still managed to gain some success and then lost to a good, rugged, much bigger fighter. No harm in that.

            Heck, he could still come back in rematches against Cuadras or Estrada although I think the latter has hit his peak and will rule the division soon.

            In all honesty, if RG is able to do physically do it, he could still move down 3lb to fly and pick up some more title and the nretire as champ. He may never be as good as he was when I saw him up wins over guys like Estrada, Blanq, Yaegashi, Sosa and Viloria. As anyone who follows the sport known, 30 is ancient for most smaller guys.
            I see you all are going to stick with this "he loss to a bigger man" theme. I frankly saw no huge size difference but I did see that Gonzalez has no idea how to fight a southpaw or how to block punches with his gloves instead of his face.

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #16
              Originally posted by Tom Cruise
              We were only told he should dominate Rungvisai by people who dont follow the division and just boxrec'd him.

              Anyone who saw at least his fight with Cuadras knew that he was one of the too dogs in the division, and a nightmare stylewise for a pressure fighter like Gonzalez. Plus the natural size as well. Sometimes fight night weights dont tell the full story (see Kell Brook vs GGG for example). RG couldnt put a dent in the guy.

              I bet on Rungvisai at 10/1 in their first fight. Crazy odds.
              Good points. I also think a lot of posters/ fans are swayed by HBO commentators. Jim and Max made Gonzalez out to be this force of nature we had never seen. Then Espn helped them push him.

              Meanwhile, people that knew about him and saw him fight often praised him but not to the degree jim and max did.

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              • JK1700
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                #17
                This is why boxers say "I don't fight for the fans, I fight for myself". These so called "fans" haven't gotta get hit in the head and will turn their back on you as soon as you lose. I hope he doesn't take the loss too hard and comes back stronger. He's always been exciting and fun to watch so I will continue to support him.

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                • Teetotaler
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                  #18
                  lolol **** that diva. Glad he got stopped

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                  • Mexican_Puppet
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Flo_Raiden
                    He loses twice, both to the same man who is naturally bigger, a big puncher and also a solid fighter. No shame in that. And yet I'm already seeing people hating on Gonzalez and calling him overrated. It just shows how quick people turn their backs on a fighter who end up losing when that's part of the game.
                    I don't know how Gonzalez will look if he fights again or if he'll ever be the same again. But show some respect to a great fighter like Gonzalez. He's already achieved enough to be considered an ATG and was dominant in the lower weights. And unlike Ricardo Lopez he actually took risks and moved up in 3 weight classes to fight the best possible guys.

                    Was it too much to consider him as p4p #1? Probably. But he's had a solid career that warrants him a place in the HoF.

                    Ricardo Lopez, IGNORANT, was really a natural 105 pounds fighter, he always was in that weight without training camps.

                    And he cleaned for years a weight.

                    Gonzalez never clean a division, NEVER UNIFIED.

                    Credit for what?

                    Guy had a soft career till the Cuadras fight...

                    Only had 3 elite fighters in his career:

                    Estrada IN 108 POUNDS, ESTRADA DRAINED HIMSELF 4 POUNDS.

                    CUADRAS, THAT WHOOPED HIS ASS SO BAD AND THIS THAI.

                    Roman ducked the rematch with Estrada in the flyweight division when both were champs.

                    Estrada had the WBO AND WBA BELTS.

                    Choco Rajas had the WBC.

                    But Choco said: "give me 2 million to fight with Estrada"

                    And nope, he never was dominant because he never unified a division.

                    Very good fighter, but on the level of Santa Cruz.

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                    • Mexican_Puppet
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Teetotaler
                      lolol **** that diva. Glad he got stopped
                      Exactly.

                      This diva has a soft career the most part of the time.

                      This diva was crying for millions to fight with Estrada and then he accepted low payday to fight bums or old men like Sosa o Viloria.



                      Today there are like 50 titles in each division and this midget never unified one division of 4.

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