Where Gonzalez went wrong.

[Code Red]

I wonder why Roy Jones couldn't adapt in the 2nd Tarver fight and prevent himself from getting knocked out in 2. I mean he was P4P #1, it must have been his ring IQ but since he lost everything he did before that means nothing at all because some brainiac on a forum says so and his claim of being a great fighter was illegitimate.

The bias and envy of some of the posters on the forum but none of the OG's can match you Kev.

Roy did adapt, but so did Tarver

[Motorcity Cobra]

I didn't hear that, but it's true. When you are placed at #1 in boxing, you can't go in the ring with Plan A and nothing else. #4 P4P was still too high, but i'm sure after this he will be dropped entirely to make room for Rungvisai.

About Ward saying that: The true #1 P4P fighter telling the former false #1 P4P guy what it is. Ward should know as he had to adapt against a beast like Kovalev.

Max said in the fighter meeting Gonzalez said he can't do fighters the way he did him with his power since moving up. Ward said if you're p4p you have to find a way to adjust and win.

Gonzalez basically admitted he was all power, nothing else.

[Real King Kong]

He squared his body too much...an especially bad thing to do against a southpaw. He needed to do a lot more stepping to his left.

[-Kev-]

I wonder why Roy Jones couldn't adapt in the 2nd Tarver fight and prevent himself from getting knocked out in 2. I mean he was P4P #1, it must have been his ring IQ but since he lost everything he did before that means nothing at all because some brainiac on a forum says so and his claim of being a great fighter was illegitimate.

The bias and envy of some of the posters on the forum but none of the OG's can match you Kev.

Roy Jones Jr was 35 years old.

Why so emotional? I'm strictly talking boxing here. Your post seems like you took it personal. What I said would be agreed upon even by RG fans.

[Code Red]

Max said in the fighter meeting Gonzalez said he can't do fighters the way he did him with his power since moving up. Ward said if you're p4p you have to find a way to adjust and win.

Gonzalez basically admitted he was all power, nothing else.

That would be like Ward saying I can't beat Kovalev cause he's bigger than me

[SilverMiles]

Wear and tear also breaks the bodu down. 4 fights straight it was all wars for Gonzalez. Rungvaisai's body work was good but lso to the fact that Roman lost a lot of his resistance, Estrada put on more body.work than Rungvaisai and Gonzalez surged forward and then Roman broke down against rungvaisai in 4 rounds. People dont realize how much punishment a guy can take. And Roman Gonzalez is an epitome of a great fighter that shortened his career because of wars.

You can also look at his body and see he isn't really in the same fighting condition he was in at 108lbs.

Just look at SplitSeconds avi and see how solid he looks compared to now. His face is fat and puffy and didn't react well to punishment.

And I'm sure the Cuadras fight had him 2nd guessing his career as a boxer because that was a hellish fight that took a toll on Gonzales.

The problem with most posters on this site is they only judge a fighter based on the part of their career they saw on American TV,

So for many of them, Roman's first 40 fights don't count.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Chocolatito has not defensive skills.

He always fights with this style.

He is a fraud, very good boxer but with the level of Santa Cruz, never the #1 pxp.

He doesn't know how to move and box...

Now he fought with a big warrior with a lot of power and he do the same of all his fights.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Gonzalez is not a boxer, he is a come forward, face first brawler, you tactically fight a dumb fight you get stretched on the canvas

exactly.... hahaha this bum the #1 p4p?

[!! Shawn]

Why didn't he adapt?

As a #1 P4P fighter you have to be able to adapt if something isn't working.

He lost because his ring IQ failed him. And yes he did tried throwing a lot of punches, it's just that Rungvisai was also throwing with him and his punches were hurting him, and he wasn't hurting Rungvisai, which made him reluctant. Hence the last resort being complaints about headbutts, that were non-factors, it was just him trying to cope with the fact that he was being outfought and didn't have a plan B.

He lost because he got caught.

Did Floyd's ring IQ fail him when Mosley caught him?

Floyd just took the shot better. If Mosley dropped Floyd as hard as Roman got dropped. Floyd wouldn't have made it out of the round either.

He has never been my cup of tea, but to pretend that slick boxing skills are the only kind of skills in boxing is ignorant of what makes up the sport.

His balance, and punch selection and ability to always get going was something nobody else in the sport had the ability to do.

[Code Red]

You can also look at his body and see he isn't really in the same fighting condition he was in at 108lbs.

Just look at SplitSeconds avi and see how solid he looks compared to now. His face is fat and puffy and didn't react well to punishment.

And I'm sure the Cuadras fight had him 2nd guessing his career as a boxer because that was a hellish fight that took a toll on Gonzales.

The problem with most posters on this site is they only judge a fighter based on the part of their career they saw on American TV,

So for many of them, Roman's first 40 fights don't count.

He had months to train so he should of gotten in better shape... if he thinks he does better lighter then he should of came in lighter