Should GGG's WBA "regular" title defenses count towards the middleweight record?

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  • The Hammer
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    #21
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    Should "regular" champs hold the same status as champs of the past did when they set their records? What's your take on that?
    So do you hate Golovkin for the same reason you hate Wlad, Vitali, Pavlik, Lomachenko, Kovalev, Calzaghe, etc?

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    • stealthradon
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      #22
      Well, Hopkins count his 20 defenses, wherein he has 3 defenses against the same guy.
      The defense against William Bo James who had an awful awful resume. His biggest win was against Kevin Tillman. On points.
      Steve Frank. Who had only been in a 10 round once before. Which he lost. He also took the fight on less than a month's notice.
      And many more that would have been destroyed by Ouma.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Pigeons
        I hope Golovkin breaks the record. It would be funny since a whiteboy already retired Hopkins by knocking him clean out the ring. So for another whiteboy to break the record that is synonymous with his legacy would be poetic justice.
        actually it would be more funny when GBP's ''white boy'' aka ''the ginger'' preserves B-Hops record by beating the asian

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          #24
          Originally posted by Freedom2111
          So do you hate Golovkin for the same reason you hate Wlad, Vitali, Pavlik, Lomachenko, Kovalev, Calzaghe, etc?
          If you'd like to participate in this thread then feel free to simply answer and discuss the question I posed.

          Otherwise I don't want you bringing your racist baiting and agenda here. This isn't Caste Football.

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            #25
            Originally posted by triplohe
            HAHAHAHA

            canelo fanboys already starting to shake in their boots

            trying to comfort themselves by digging up random ****
            This isn't really"random ****."

            Most articles about Canelo vs Golovkin seem to make it a point to mention that GGG has 18 consecutive title defenses. Something which is debatable.

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            • Dean_Razorback
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              #26
              GGG makes so many people insecure in this place, is so hilarious

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              • !! Shawn
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                #27
                Originally posted by BrometheusBob.
                Well the defenses of that title that took place while there was a super WBA champion should definitely not be included.

                I think there were a few that took place while the super WBA was vacant, and before GGG himself became the super WBA champion, which I guess you could count.

                Here are the WBA's own definition of what is required to be elevated to super champion.

                DEFINITION. The SUPER WORLD CHAMPION CATEGORY OR UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMPION was created for those World Champions who hold the title of two or more organizations recognized by the WBA, like the World Boxing Council (WBC), the International Boxing Federation (IBF) and the World Boxing Organization

                1) Sturm was elevated to super champion without unifying any other title.
                2) GGG was his mandatory challenger.
                3) There are reliable sources that claim that Sturm paid the WBA to be elevated to Super Champion a way to avoid his mandatory defense against Golvkin.

                Had the WBA operated by its own rules, Sturm would have been forced to either Face Golvkin or vacate the belt.

                Given all of those circumstances, and considering that Sturm did not face Golvkin, it is reasonable to consider that Golvkin won the vacant title.
                Last edited by !! Shawn; 09-09-2017, 07:19 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dean_Razorback
                  GGG makes so many people insecure in this place, is so hilarious
                  I think it's a genuine and legit question. No insecurity whatsoever.

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                  • HanzGruber
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                    #29
                    No. He fought straight up bums when he defended that. Shameful people try and pretend that he's breaking some record from defending that crap

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                    • triplohe
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                      #30
                      bhop gonna have his record broken and gonna slit his wrists in the tub cause that records the only thing making him relevant

                      pathetic salty old man

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