lets sum up golovkin

[maracho]

I'd rather you back up your assertions with facts, rather than just claim you're right because the other person is bias. Try it. Name the fighters better than Tito & co. and why.

I never said a thing about Trinidad so quit weaseling out of the subject where you insisted that Howard Eastman was better than everyone on GGG's record and you didnt back it up because anyone can see that Eastman's best wins were a extremely padded McKracken and a very green (11-4) Sam Soliman.

[rickJen]

Same TS, same repetitive message about Glovkin, different alt.
You can say the same with Rigondeux, but why is he not getting the same hate?
Why else other than you know why.

[maracho]

Same TS, same repetitive message about Glovkin, different alt.
You can say the same with Rigondeux, but why is he not getting the same hate?
Why else other than you know why.

Good post! I think everyone but weird wussies are a bit biased when it comes to fighting but when they just lie and spout propaganda, its obviously hate speech

[IMDAZED]

I never said a thing about Trinidad so quit weaseling out of the subject where you insisted that Howard Eastman was better than everyone on GGG's record and you didnt back it up because anyone can see that Eastman's best wins were a extremely padded McKracken and a very green (11-4) Sam Soliman.

Well yeah, you didn't say anything about Tito because he alone destroys any argument about their resumes being comparable. In short, GGG's MW resume doesn't compare for that reason alone, glad we agree. So you want to argue Eastman but a closer look at GGG's resume suggests his opponents aren't any better. Who is the best opponent GGG beat? Jacobs? What's his best win, Quillin? That's better than Hacine Cherifi? McCracken? Yeah, right.

[maracho]

Well yeah, you didn't say anything about Tito because he alone destroys any argument about their resumes being comparable. In short, GGG's MW resume doesn't compare for that reason alone, glad we agree. So you want to argue Eastman but a closer look at GGG's resume suggests his opponents aren't any better. Who is the best opponent GGG beat? Jacobs? What's his best win, Quillin? That's better than Hacine Cherifi? McCracken? Yeah, right.

99% of the wins by McCracken and Cherifi were against opponents with multiple losses

Quillin, Limieux, Brooke, have wins over very good opponents and and if Martin Murray hadnt gotten robbed so much, he would too. A whole lot of GGG's other opponents also have better wins than do McCracken and Cherifi

[IMDAZED]

99% of the wins by McCracken and Cherifi were against opponents with multiple losses

Quillin, Limieux, Brooke, have wins over very good opponents and and if Martin Murray hadnt gotten robbed so much, he would too. A whole lot of GGG's other opponents also have better wins than do McCracken and Cherifi

That's a very silly statement. Jose Luis Castillo and Antonio Margarito had multiple losses too. Many excellent fighters. Try again.

You're second paragraph is a lot of blabber. Who are these very good opponents that Quillin beat? You're not really making a point other than they're better because you say so. If you can't come up with a substantive post, just move on and find someone your level to talk boxing with.

[rickJen]

Good post! I think everyone but weird wussies are a bit biased when it comes to fighting but when they just lie and spout propaganda, its obviously hate speech

What is humorous is when these alts say the same thing.
That Glovkin needs to move up and the only guy who could give him legitimacy is to fight Ward, the number one guy at his weight.
Not even the 2nd, 3rd, 10th. Jermall Charlo hasn't even moved up, yet he's already legit and sealed it with a nobody like Helland.
Guys like Broner moved up and fought retired Malignaggi, not Mayweather.
Their hate message always never ends without mentioning Ward.
In effect they're actually Glovkin's biggest fans. Hehe...
Glovkin = hypejob vs Andre Ward = number one.
The logic just isn't there.

[sicko]

EXCELLENT FIGHTER! Boxer/Puncher I compare him to John "The Beast" Mugabi one of my favorites who was also on just a crazy KO streak before the Hagler fight. People thought Hagler was crazy for stepping in with Mugabi before the Leonard fight. But Offensively he is basically Flawless. Good Jab, mix up his punches very well, very underrated feet he cuts the ring off very well:


The Negative: He has a lot of *** BOY FANS, honestly they not even fans of his they just use him as the face of their BS until he lose and then they will abandon ship and go start stroking a new guy. Anyway, as for his flaws in the ring, it is really not much. His head movement could be better! Also not the quickest or the fastest guy. Also no Inside Game, he doesn't do much on the inside and this is where Jacobs and even Monroe at times did well vs GGG was on the inside:



GGG Prefers distances to get off with that Power but not much inside work from him. But Overall a excellent fight one of the best P4P Today for sure but not INVINCIBLE as some on this forum try to make him out to be which is unfair to him. Too many excuses being made just like Kovalev when he looks vulnerable instead of demanding that he correct those flaws. Instead of saying "GGG Need To Move His Head Move" people say "Well GGG Allow His Opponents To Hit Him!" and if he and Abel is listening to that then like Kovalev you will see a great big FALL!

[Sidney Powell]

PROS - Greatest of all time offensively and defensively

- Offers classy compromises, like the very fair and agreeable 164lb catchweight request to Andre Ward

- Would beat Floyd Mayweather's ass if given the opportunity

CONS - None come to mind tbh

[Diego Rodriguez]

good post...and i appreciate your honesty as well

i agree...nard is a freak and i dont think golovkin will come anywhere near close to what nard accomplished post MW. I think we can agree on that...i know people wanna give golovkin the benefit of the doubt and let things "play out"...but i just cant envision it.....people, and sanchez, have already been crying about how "big" jacobs was.....I think golovkin has a hard time with LHW's even the likes of joe smith type of guy...and there isnt much at 168 for him either aside from a jacobs rematch

i also agree that if Golovkin were to beat canelo, rematch jacobs and beat charlo he would have to go down as one of the best MWs. But.....I just dont know if i see that happening. charlo would represent high risk/low reward...and if golovkin beats canelo he will be looking for money fights...i think at this point in, meaning age, charlo is all wrong for golovkin...i would say that charlo needs to show us a little more at 160 before we can clearly say that....but from what i see, and can project, i think charlo can beat golovkin....i think thats the type of fight golovkins people would rather not see given that is doesnt bring any kind of real money

I can't envision it just like I can't see Canelo beating Golovkin but time will tell. That's all we can do. As a Golovkin fan I'm only looking at this fight and then go from there.

In my opinion Charlo should be doing everything he can to get fights because how long will it be before Golovkin might be ready to fight him if he wins vs. Canelo? You know he wants BJS,you know there is a rematch clause vs Canelo and Jacobs is still out there. As you say Charlo really brings high risk and low reward. If I was Charlo and looking at this practically and I really believed I was the man at 160lbs I'd be calling out Jacobs. Abel already said he's the second best MW. So if you get him and win how can Golovkin avoid you? Plus Jacobs has some name brand now.

I hope I'm wrong but some of these guys seem like they are going to do their own waiting game.