lets sum up golovkin

[Diego Rodriguez]

hopkins resume at MW, minus a prime RJJ, is pretty weak itself....the problem is most golovkin fans like to use hopkins MW resume to defend golovkin....its almost like they think hopkins is revered in the sport solely because of his MW reign...if hopkins stopped fighting after his MW reign his resume would be picked apart and his standing in the sport would not be what it is ....bernard is legendary because of what he did after his MW reign.......its like golovkin fans want to use bernards legendary status as some sort of bar for golovkin.....

I respect your intellectual honesty. My point when I bring up Hopkins and Golovkin is to show that up to this point in their careers they are very similar. What happens from Canelo and on we'll see.

I don't believe Golovkin will be able to do what Hopkins did post 160 because one I think Bernard is pretty much a freak of nature physically. The man was able to perform at an exceptionally high level well into his 40s. Second he wasn't at a significant physical disadvantage at 168lbs and even 175lbs. I think Golovkin's max is 168lbs and he'll be small at that.

Let's say Golovkin beat Canelo and fought 5 more fights at MW beating the likes of Jacobs again, Charlo and I don't know whoever and then retired. I think he'd go down as one of the best Middleweigths of all time but yes he'd definitely be viewed as something less than Hopkins overall.

[iamboxing]

Unbeaten, never down, highest knockout percentage in the history of the MW division. Resume includes anyone with the balls to face him. Not his problem if the division isn't up to snuff. You can start bashing him if Canelo or anyone else beats him. Until then....sit back and enjoy the carnage.

exactly very well put

[Curt Henning]

I respect your intellectual honesty. My point when I bring up Hopkins and Golovkin is to show that up to this point in their careers they are very similar. What happens from Canelo and on we'll see.

I don't believe Golovkin will be able to do what Hopkins did post 160 because one I think Bernard is pretty much a freak of nature physically. The man was able to perform at an exceptionally high level well into his 40s. Second he wasn't at a significant physical disadvantage at 168lbs and even 175lbs. I think Golovkin's max is 168lbs and he'll be small at that.

Let's say Golovkin beat Canelo and fought 5 more fights at MW beating the likes of Jacobs again, Charlo and I don't know whoever and then retired. I think he'd go down as one of the best Middleweigths of all time but yes he'd definitely be viewed as something less than Hopkins overall.

good post...and i appreciate your honesty as well

i agree...nard is a freak and i dont think golovkin will come anywhere near close to what nard accomplished post MW. I think we can agree on that...i know people wanna give golovkin the benefit of the doubt and let things "play out"...but i just cant envision it.....people, and sanchez, have already been crying about how "big" jacobs was.....I think golovkin has a hard time with LHW's even the likes of joe smith type of guy...and there isnt much at 168 for him either aside from a jacobs rematch

i also agree that if Golovkin were to beat canelo, rematch jacobs and beat charlo he would have to go down as one of the best MWs. But.....I just dont know if i see that happening. charlo would represent high risk/low reward...and if golovkin beats canelo he will be looking for money fights...i think at this point in, meaning age, charlo is all wrong for golovkin...i would say that charlo needs to show us a little more at 160 before we can clearly say that....but from what i see, and can project, i think charlo can beat golovkin....i think thats the type of fight golovkins people would rather not see given that is doesnt bring any kind of real money

[maracho]

sweet

Hopkins lost to RJJ so that shouldn't be on his resume anyway. Why is it on NSB, folks act as if your resume should include jobs you applied for but didn't get?

Now that said, Hopkins' resume at MW is far better than Golovkin's.

Felix Trinidad craps on anyone and everyone on GGG's resume.

Howard Eastman beats everyone on GGG's resume too.

You have a guy like Keith Holmes, who is ridiculed for his performance against Bernard, but beat Paul Vaden, Robert McCracken and future super middleweight champion Richie Woodhall.

I could name a few more but you get the point.

One note, however, is that there is still time for GGG to carve out a 160lb. legacy as good or better than Bernard's. At their respective ages in their career, Bernard's resume is only slightly better. That said, Bernard also wasn't receiving anyway near the same hype.

you saying Howard Eastman beats anyone on GGG's record proves some kind of insane bias in your part

Robert McCracken lol..you're listing extremly padded records and your anology on resumes is also off kilter because Hopkins did indeed get the Job.. Now I wouldn't put on my resume that I was fired but if it was a major job that I gained a lot of experience I would definitely list it

[Curt Henning]

Hopkins lost to RJJ so that shouldn't be on his resume anyway. Why is it on NSB, folks act as if your resume should include jobs you applied for but didn't get?

Now that said, Hopkins' resume at MW is far better than Golovkin's.

Felix Trinidad craps on anyone and everyone on GGG's resume.

Howard Eastman beats everyone on GGG's resume too.

You have a guy like Keith Holmes, who is ridiculed for his performance against Bernard, but beat Paul Vaden, Robert McCracken and future super middleweight champion Richie Woodhall.

I could name a few more but you get the point.

One note, however, is that there is still time for GGG to carve out a 160lb. legacy as good or better than Bernard's. At their respective ages in their career, Bernard's resume is only slightly better. That said, Bernard also wasn't receiving anyway near the same hype.

resume is experience.....the job you are applying for is status....the resume itself is the experiences....thats the way i look at it anyway

getting in the ring with one of the most talented, gifted, MWs ever and losing doesnt negate the experience....i see the actual job being applied for as status ranking....

golovkin will never fight a guy as good as the roy that hopkins fought....should we consider nards loss to roy as less than golovkin beating curtis stevens? not in my book

[TonyGe]

Pros:
Good guy. Respectful, polite lives a clean fight.
Tehnically sound.
Good at cutting off the ring.
Great jab
Excellent chin
Underrated defense
Power in both hands.
Great body puncher
Hi ring IQ.
Cons
Sometimes neglects his defense if he doesn't respect his opponent
Needs to improve his fighting in clinches
Needs to impove his combination punching.
Not a good communicator in English.
Polarizing. Why???? Who the hell knows. LOL
Attracts fanatical and **** detractors. Some are borderline mentally ill.
Some fans are over the top.

[IMDAZED]

sweet

you saying Howard Eastman beats anyone on GGG's record proves some kind of insane bias in your part

Robert McCracken lol..you're listing extremly padded records and your anology on resumes is also off kilter because Hopkins did indeed get the Job.. Now I wouldn't put on my resume that I was fired but if it was a major job that I gained a lot of experience I would definitely list it

I'd rather you back up your assertions with facts, rather than just claim you're right because the other person is bias. Try it. Name the fighters better than Tito & co. and why.

[IMDAZED]

resume is experience.....the job you are applying for is status....the resume itself is the experiences....thats the way i look at it anyway

getting in the ring with one of the most talented, gifted, MWs ever and losing doesnt negate the experience....i see the actual job being applied for as status ranking....

golovkin will never fight a guy as good as the roy that hopkins fought....should we consider nards loss to roy as less than golovkin beating curtis stevens? not in my book

Pretty soon we're going to be calling guys like Oba Carr HOF'ers. Their "resume" is amazing. I'm just not the type to tout losses but to each their own.

[Pigeons]

in his own words.

"I'm 50% Korean blood. 50% Russian blood."-Gennedy Golovkin

Interesting. Still he looks white so he's white. Just like ***** looks black so he's black.

[Beercules]

Canelo is going to break his hand, **** himself and get stopped late.