Comments Thread For: Golovkin: If I KO'd Jacobs, I Would Not Be Getting Canelo Fight!

[Dr.Cool]

Canelo is 8 years younger and has by far, and I mean by far, the better resume as a pro. Canelo has taken many tough fights. Facing Trout and Lara, when he didn't have to at all, are tough fights against guys with no name. That proves he will take on the top guys. G is 35 and other than Jacobs, his best win is probably a welterweight jumping two divisions. Spence is about the same age as Canelo.

G had a very accomplished amateur career, and has been guided to face only bums until now. Canelo, who offers a bigger payday than anyone else in boxing offered the fight a couple pounds below 160. G said no. G never made any offer to anyone. Remember, Canelo is only the lineal MW champ because G took step aside money from Cotto. G could have and should have demanded his fight with Cotto. He didn't. Then he let Canelo face Khan. Never made any offer to Maravilla. What the heck is G talking about?!?!! The guy is a joke, he probably was a great fighter, too bad no one will ever know since he was busy fighting the Marco Rubio's and Dominic Wade's of the world. All while the Cinnamon Ginger was fighting Trout, Mayweather, Chavez Jr., and Lara. Please, the only reason Canelo is getting this fight is because Charlo is now G's mandatory. It took Charlo becoming his mandatory to get G to step up.

Canelo, Jacobs, and Charlo should make for some great MW fights for the next couple years.

[aboutfkntime]

I pulled this same quote with Grandpa Simposon AKA (itsabouttimetodouche) a few days ago.

The haters don't care. They hate Golovkin so much that the little intelligence they have goes out the window. Golovkin the MW should be fighting anywhere but the MW division.

Here's the thing they hate. You look at Hopkins career up to the Tito fight and Golovkins career up to now and they are in very similar situations excluding the RJJ fight. A fight which was between two fighters who were top notch prospects. Hopkins didn't get his big props until the Tito beat down. He heard the same arguments about the MW division being weak and he didn't beat anyone. There's a reason he opened as a 3-1 underdog vs. Tito and it wasn't just that Tito was considered great. Tito had been exposed by DLH as completely beatable.

stop referencing Hopkins when discussing Golovkin

if Hopkins had refused to make weight concessions for a SUPERSTAR he would not be where he is today

[yankees7448]

We are talking about PURSE BIDS ******. What's JMM's comment got to do with that?

You think the promoters win a purse bid and then give the fighters a split of the TV money aswell? You're dumb as ****.

Hearn was going to bid for Klitschko-Fury how was he going to earn his money back if the fighters take the TV money as well?

You think when that Russian paid $23 mil for Klitschko-
Povetkin he also gave the fighters TV money?



Imbecile

Oh for fuch's sake do I have to draw you this argument in crayon so you can follow along. You don't even know what you're arguing about. The promoter with the winning bid gets the right to promote the event. The money from the purse bid is split between the two fighters according according to the terms dictated by the sanctioning body. Canelo's problem was that he felt the purse bid rules gave GGG more of a percentage than he deserved. I pointed out that if the fight is a PPV event (and Canelo vs GGG was always going to be on PPV) then the split of the fighters portion of the PPV revenue would still need to be negotiated. As such, Canelo could have still pushed for more favorable terms with regards to the PPV split. The PPV split, by the by, could represent an even larger amount of money if the fight is really successful.

And if you think Canelo wouldn't give up the belt and run away if K2 won the bid and didn't offer a sizeable chunk of the PPV then you're even dumber than I thought. Klitchko is not Canelo.

[CatchAndShoot]

Of course. Anyone saying how the fight was setup before the Jacob's fight is seriously ******ed. You really believe that BS by Oscar?

Let's be 💯, Oscar and Canelo don't sign off on this fight if he destroys Jacob's. And let's just say they did really have every intention 9n making this their next fight, I bet it was right after the Brook fight, and only because of the Brook fight, where they saw soemthing that made them believe GGG's getting older, and that they could have a chance agaisnt him, because Brook was able to have some success against him, and maybe exploited a few things that they also exploit, and motive upon.

Be real Canelo fans, he didn't intend 9n fighting GGG until he got older, and been in some more wars, and after Brook and Jacob showed that you can have a little success agaisnt GGG, if you fight a certain way.

[Robbie Barrett]

Oh for fuch's sake do I have to draw you this argument in crayon so you can follow along. You don't even know what you're arguing about. The promoter with the winning bid gets the right to promote the event. The money from the purse bid is split between the two fighters according according to the terms dictated by the sanctioning body. Canelo's problem was that he felt the purse bid rules gave GGG more of a percentage than he deserved. I pointed out that if the fight is a PPV event (and Canelo vs GGG was always going to be on PPV) then the split of the fighters portion of the PPV revenue would still need to be negotiated. As such, Canelo could have still pushed for more favorable terms with regards to the PPV split. The PPV split, by the by, could represent an even larger amount of money if the fight is really successful.

If a fight goes to purse bids the fighters don't get any of the TV money/PPV you spastic. They only receive the money from the winning bid. FFS

The promoters earn their money back from the TV and gate money.

How hard is that to understand?


There would be no PPV split negotiations because the fighters receive **** all from PPV.

You ****** mother****er.

[yankees7448]

so..... that had nothing whatsoever to do with Canelo..... ?

it was Golovkin's decision to take a risk

that is what you just said..... right ?

No. I was just talking about GGG's part of the equation. It takes two to tango. Canelo was playing his games as well. When GGG didn't bend over he went in another direction and he continued to do so until they finally made a deal. But the fact of the matter is that as the A-side Canelo picks whom he fights and he chose less threatening opponents.

[aboutfkntime]

Of course. Anyone saying how the fight was setup before the Jacob's fight is seriously ******ed. You really believe that BS by Oscar?

Let's be 💯, Oscar and Canelo don't sign off on this fight if he destroys Jacob's. And let's just say they did really have every intention 9n making this their next fight, I bet it was right after the Brook fight, and only because of the Brook fight, where they saw soemthing that made them believe GGG's getting older, and that they could have a chance agaisnt him, because Brook was able to have some success against him, and maybe exploited a few things that they also exploit, and motive upon.

Be real Canelo fans, he didn't intend 9n fighting GGG until he got older, and been in some more wars, and after Brook and Jacob showed that you can have a little success agaisnt GGG, if you fight a certain way.

smart posters have been saying that for a loooong time now

since 2014

[yankees7448]

If a fight goes to purse bids the fighters don't get any of the TV money/PPV you spastic. They only receive the money from the winning bid. FFS

The promoters earn their money back from the TV and gate money.

How hard is that to understand?


Their would be no PPV split negotiations because the fighters receive **** all from PPV.

You ****** mother****er.

A winning purse bid does not guarantee a fight gets made you a$$. If the fight needs to be PPV to be make the most money and the two sides can't agree to terms then the fight falls apart purse bid or no purse bid. And you are a complete ****ing ****** if you think Canelo wouldn't get a piece of the PPV if the promoter who won the purse bid put the fight on PPV.

Here is how the conversation would go:

Canelo: What is the split of the PPV revenue for the fighters?
Winner of the purse bid: Well you guys ain't getting *****. Its my event. I won the bid. I am going to get all the millions upon millions of dollars from all your fans who buy the event.
Canelo: Then I am not fighting. GGG can have the belt.
Winner of the purse bid: But I won the purse bid. You have to do what I say.
Canelo: If I vacate the belt I don't have to do a damned thing.
Winner of the purse bid: How much do you want?

[Diego Rodriguez]

stop referencing Hopkins when discussing Golovkin

if Hopkins had refused to make weight concessions for a SUPERSTAR he would not be where he is today

What you can't walk and chew gum or is it simply to solid of an argument for you. What were the concessions that Hopkins made for Tito? As far as I know the fight was for the 160lbs limit though both guys came in lower.

It wasn't until three year later vs. DLH that Hops made the weight concession. He said so because he said DLH was not a MW. He said this pre-fight. It was obvious DLH wasn't a MW in body or performance. I don't blame Hops for taking the fight.

Again you don't like the Hops comparison because at this point the two are very similar in their career. Even after his career defining W he stayed another 3 years in the division beating no one of real note.

[Schmerzen]

let's just hope ggg still has enough energy left to ko this redhead queen after chasing him for years