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  • Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
    No the fighters don't get any PPV/TV or any other money after a purse bid. The only money they receive is from the winning bid. You ****** ****er.


    A purse bid is an initial step in arranging a professional boxing match, involving the fight's/card's promoter(s). All interested registered promoters may bid on the amount of the purse (the total money that the fighters will be paid for the match), if the sides representing each fighter fail to agree on it before the deadline. The highest offer wins; however, the winning entity must produce a small percentage of the total amount up-front by a certain date. The purse in a purse bid is split between the fighters according to the preset formulas of the sanctioning commissions.[1][2] Purse bids are often won by one of the two fighters' promoters.
    For championship belt fights under a given sanctioning body (WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF, etc), the two fighters' (champion and challenger) promoters/managers usually get together to establish an agreement for how much each side will receive. In situations where the two sides can't agree, it will sometimes go to a "purse bid" where the process is opened up to any promoter that would like to put on the fight. They submit bids for how much they're willing to pay in purses and the highest bidder wins the right to put on the fight. In such cases, the champion usually gets a higher percentage and the challenger a lower percentage and the total purse is simply split between the two by formula. Take an example. In the summer of 2015 the WBA heavyweight champion was Wladimir Klitschko and the WBA wanted him to fight his mandatory challenger, Tyson Fury. The two sides (K2 Promotions for Klitschko and Frank Warren for Fury) were initially unable to come to an agreement on terms for a fight. The WBA then ordered a purse bid, which would have allowed any promoter to submit bids to put the fight on themselves. Just before the purse bid was going to open up, the two sides announced they had come to an agreement and so the purse bid was canceled.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purse_bid
    Congradulations on posting a lot of bull***** that I already pointed out and which does not disprove your dumba$$ theory that fighters don't get a cut of the PPV.

    For fuch's sake. Are you seriously so goshdarn ignorant about boxing that you think fighters don't get a portion of the PPV?

    If you don't believe me here is a quote from Juan Manuel Marquez.

    http://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-c...lovkin--109369

    Marquez agrees with Golovkin's position of demanding a percentage deal. He feels a flat fee offer, for such a lucrative fight, is another way to avoid the contest. He says Golovkin is being offered a low deal, so when he rejects the money then Canelo can claim the middleweight king was not interested in the fight.
    "They are really punishing Gennady Golovkin [by offering a flat fee] .... because it's just a way to avoid to Golovkin, it's a way of saying we do not want the fight. We are not going to pay you that much, would you like to accept it?" Go ahead. Logically they can generate $200 or 300 million [from the pay-per-view event], which is just an estimate," Marquez told Golpe a Golpe.

    "If the fight will generate a certain amount, they have to pay Golovkin well, because Canelo is not the only one in the fight. Canelo Alvarez is the one with the popularity, but he has to accept the contest with Golovkin if he wants to prove that he's the best in the division. So if they offer Golovkin 30, 35, 40% [I think the fight will get done]."

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    • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
      I have already answered your casual-fan idiocy

      no of course not, you fool

      1) Team Bullshht were well-aware that he could not make 164



      2)
      FACT: Golovkin was willing to fight Froch at 168
      FACT: Golovkin was willing to fight Chavez at 168
      FACT: Golovkin was willing to fight Jack at 168
      FACT: Golovkin was willing to fight Degale at 168
      FACT: Golovkin was willing to fight Hopkins at 168
      FACT: Golovkin was willing to fight Chudinov at 168
      FACT: Golovkin was willing to fight Ramirez at 168
      FACT: Golovkin was NOT willing to fight Ward at 168

      just so long as you are happy with that

      3)





      seriously kid, how fkn old are you? ..... alt fanboy clown

      " the catchweight challenge " LOOOOOL
      So Ward could make 168lbs but he couldn't make 4 more pounds. He probably couldn't have made either. This was all just bluster going back and forth in 2015. Maybe in 2013 but that's when Ward said no to a fight. Which according to your reasoning means Ward ducked Golovkin. LOL! Not my reasoning yours.

      Fact, he didn't fight any of those guys. He never moved up into the division. You can't duck people in a different weight class you moron. This is like arguing Ward is ducking Joshua if he doesn't fight him because he mentioned his name. Now if he moves up and fights Joshua massive props but if he doesn't that doesn't mean he ducked him.

      Golovkin ducked Canelo and Cotto because he didn't move down to fight guys for the Championship in his weight class. He ducked the 168lbs weight division because he didn't move up. LOL!! The lack of logic is comical.

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      • wgaf ?!?!?!

        youre fighting him next week.

        wtf............

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        • Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
          1. He is making a fortune. He got the fight with Canelo. Its happening on September 16th in case you didn't notice. And he didn't have to agree to a catchweight.

          2. He did that well before the fight with Canelo was official.

          3. His numbers were slightly better than that.

          Stop being a hater.

          if Canelo lost in the meantime..... Golovkin would get 0

          if Golovkin lost in the meantime..... he would get 0

          I am sure that you would attempt to somehow find a way to blame Canelo for Golovkin receiving 0 for both of those eventualities

          lucky that K2 finally decided to cash Golovkin out following those lesser performances against Brook/Jacobs

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          • Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez View Post
            So Ward could make 168lbs but he couldn't make 4 more pounds. He probably couldn't have made either. This was all just bluster going back and forth in 2015. Maybe in 2013 but that's when Ward said no to a fight. Which according to your reasoning means Ward ducked Golovkin. LOL! Not my reasoning yours.

            Fact, he didn't fight any of those guys. He never moved up into the division. You can't duck people in a different weight class you moron. This is like arguing Ward is ducking Joshua if he doesn't fight him because he mentioned his name. Now if he moves up and fights Joshua massive props but if he doesn't that doesn't mean he ducked him.

            Golovkin ducked Canelo and Cotto because he didn't move down to fight guys for the Championship in his weight class. He ducked the 168lbs weight division because he didn't move up. LOL!! The lack of logic is comical.





            FACT: Golovkin was willing to fight Froch at 168
            FACT: Golovkin was willing to fight Chavez at 168
            FACT: Golovkin was willing to fight Jack at 168
            FACT: Golovkin was willing to fight Degale at 168
            FACT: Golovkin was willing to fight Hopkins at 168
            FACT: Golovkin was willing to fight Chudinov at 168
            FACT: Golovkin was willing to fight Ramirez at 168
            FACT: Golovkin was NOT willing to fight Ward at 168


            just so long as you are happy with that

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            • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
              if Canelo lost in the meantime..... Golovkin would get 0

              if Golovkin lost in the meantime..... he would get 0

              I am sure that you would attempt to somehow find a way to blame Canelo for Golovkin receiving 0 for both of those eventualities

              lucky that K2 finally decided to cash Golovkin out following those lesser performances against Brook/Jacobs
              There was always a risk of either guy losing. But in this case it paid off. So why keep b!tching about hypotheticals that didn't come to pass. He took a risk and it paid off in a big way. He's getting his fight, he's getting his money and he doesn't have to meet Canelo at a catchweight. That's a win in my book.

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              • Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
                Congradulations on posting a lot of bull***** that I already pointed out and which does not disprove your dumba$$ theory that fighters don't get a cut of the PPV.

                For fuch's sake. Are you seriously so goshdarn ignorant about boxing that you think fighters don't get a portion of the PPV?

                If you don't believe me here is a quote from Juan Manuel Marquez.

                http://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-c...lovkin--109369

                Marquez agrees with Golovkin's position of demanding a percentage deal. He feels a flat fee offer, for such a lucrative fight, is another way to avoid the contest. He says Golovkin is being offered a low deal, so when he rejects the money then Canelo can claim the middleweight king was not interested in the fight.

                We are talking about PURSE BIDS ******. What's JMM's comment got to do with that?

                You think the promoters win a purse bid and then give the fighters a split of the TV money aswell? You're dumb as ****.

                Hearn was going to bid for Klitschko-Fury how was he going to earn his money back if the fighters take the TV money as well?

                You think when that Russian paid $23 mil for Klitschko-
                Povetkin he also gave the fighters TV money?



                Imbecile

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                • Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
                  There was always a risk of either guy losing. But in this case it paid off. So why keep b!tching about hypotheticals that didn't come to pass. He took a risk and it paid off in a big way. He's getting his fight, he's getting his money and he doesn't have to meet Canelo at a catchweight. That's a win in my book.

                  so..... that had nothing whatsoever to do with Canelo..... ?

                  it was Golovkin's decision to take a risk

                  that is what you just said..... right ?

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                  • Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
                    Congradulations on posting a lot of bull***** that I already pointed out and which does not disprove your dumba$$ theory that fighters don't get a cut of the PPV.

                    For fuch's sake. Are you seriously so goshdarn ignorant about boxing that you think fighters don't get a portion of the PPV?

                    If you don't believe me here is a quote from Juan Manuel Marquez.

                    http://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-c...lovkin--109369

                    Marquez agrees with Golovkin's position of demanding a percentage deal. He feels a flat fee offer, for such a lucrative fight, is another way to avoid the contest. He says Golovkin is being offered a low deal, so when he rejects the money then Canelo can claim the middleweight king was not interested in the fight.
                    I pulled this same quote with Grandpa Simposon AKA (itsabouttimetodouche) a few days ago.

                    The haters don't care. They hate Golovkin so much that the little intelligence they have goes out the window. Golovkin the MW should be fighting anywhere but the MW division.

                    Here's the thing they hate. You look at Hopkins career up to the Tito fight and Golovkins career up to now and they are in very similar situations excluding the RJJ fight. A fight which was between two fighters who were top notch prospects. Hopkins didn't get his big props until the Tito beat down. He heard the same arguments about the MW division being weak and he didn't beat anyone. There's a reason he opened as a 3-1 underdog vs. Tito and it wasn't just that Tito was considered great. Tito had been exposed by DLH as completely beatable.

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                    • Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
                      There was always a risk of either guy losing. But in this case it paid off. So why keep b!tching about hypotheticals that didn't come to pass. He took a risk and it paid off in a big way. He's getting his fight, he's getting his money and he doesn't have to meet Canelo at a catchweight. That's a win in my book.



                      first, you said this.....

                      Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
                      He could have fought Canelo if Canelo didn't pu$$ out

                      then, you said this.....

                      Originally posted by yankees7448 View Post
                      .....He took a risk and it paid off.....

                      would you like some more time to get your story straight..... ?


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